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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2023-03-14 05:28 pm

[ SECRET POST #5912 ]


⌈ Secret Post #5912 ⌋

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[personal profile] meadowphoenix 2023-03-15 05:55 am (UTC)(link)
largely people's framework is capitalistic success, while largely disliking capitalistic consequences. So "ruin" is usually the inability to make money because a product was starved of consumers through social channels (aka reputational channels), even though the latter is the main tool for a consumer to register disapproval.

Because people dislike capitalistic consequences, they tend to use the language of collective theories as replacement. So "holding someone accountable" is to treat a person as if they are a community member who merely needs be brought in line, non-punitively, back to community ideal. Mind you, capitalistic consequences aren't punitive unless you feel people are entitled to capitalistic success. But for people who have been brought up in a society in which your ability to make money largely determines your social worth...

But the "punitive" nature of any action is usually what people are trying to redirect. I don't think you can successfully have one framework but use the solutions of directly contradictory one, especially since none of this is ever done in a consistent way across all similar "wrong-doers", but I understand why people want to do so.