[ SECRET POST #5922 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #5922 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.


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09. [WARNING for rape]

[The Other Boleyn Girl]


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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

Except that your own example points out what a giant manbaby Henry was about rejection already re: Anne of Cleves. It wasn't even that she acted disgusted by his person, it's that he disguised himself and she didn't know the strange man accosting her was her future husband the king, so she didn't pretend to be delighted (like Katherine of Aragon did) and surprised in the chilvalric love sort of way that Henry expected. You'll note his response to that public and obviously humiliating to him rejection wasn't to go all incel and sexually assault her for saying no, it was cowardly accusations behind Anne's back (he treated her well to her face, according to Anne's own account) and disparaging her looks while claiming she was so unattractive he couldn't get it up.

So while Henry might have the habit of preying on ladies in waiting, I think that actually he IS looking for a yes. Maybe it doesn't have to be enthusiastic - I don't know how good those ladies were at acting, or how picky Henry was about fake enthusiasm. But his track record suggests he was extremely vain even when he had no right to be and that he wanted AND expected his mistresses to be in love with him/sexually attracted to him, not the opposite.

[meadowphoenix]

The type of people who are obsessed with their own power don't use the same types of power in all situations. Anne of Cleves rejection wasn't sexual*, so Henry retaliated non-sexually. Anne Boleyn's rejected was sexual (in this book) so he reacted (in this book) sexually. This is also after repeated rejections, not just one. They're not going to get the same treatment because they're not doing the same thing.

I don't think it's completely off-base to portray Henry as a Weinstein figure, in that his bullying would include rape because the type of power rape elucidates was specifically part of his overall bullying nature.

I'm using enthusiastic for a reason, which is that his position meant that he was at all times implicitly threatening those ladies and I don't think Henry VIII didn't know that. Anne Boleyn is resisting that implicit threat (for another one the Church), and again, I don't think it's crazy for Henry to think I've already said fuck you to the church, I'm owed.

*this is me condensing the socio-political nature of this game, but what I'm saying is that Henry knew well and good that Anne of Cleves would consummate their marriage if he tried.