[ SECRET POST #5928 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #5928 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

AYRT

I think maybe if they were doxxing you and sharing photos of your house and telling you that you must have enjoyed and deserved the rape and/or SA in your past if you ever mentioned it, or posted videos of you taken without your consent when you didn't even know it was happening, you might not be so blithe. These are things that have happened to me and people I know. (Or maybe it has happened to you and you really are that secure and confident.)

I'm not saying it's the norm or anything, but it definitely has a chilling effect on honesty. I've never seen this behavior from anti-shaming people, but it is very much a thing from the pro-shamers.

By all means, be ambivalent as much as you want. Question is as much as you want, and talk about it as openly as you feel safe to. It's okay! But the "shaming people for liking things" includes a lot more credible death threats, so there is a lot more legitimate reason to be wary.

[(Anonymous)]

sa

you might understand why they think the way they do, but I do think you're still not understating how hateful and violent the "problematic ship" discourse has become. How absolutely brutal they are with victim-blaming ("oh, you like x ship and you were raped? You deserved it and you must have liked it. too bad your rapist didn't kill you") Can you really easily laugh this sort of thing off?

[(Anonymous)]

("oh, you like x ship and you were raped? You deserved it and you must have liked it. too bad your rapist didn't kill you") Can you really easily laugh this sort of thing off?

I don't laugh it off when it's directed at other people, because I'm not insensitive like that. But directed towards me? Sure. The person saying those things is a hateful clown; nothing they say means anything to me.

The place where I wouldn't laugh it off anymore is when they take it into real life with doxxing, etc. But in the twenty years I've been in fandom, I've seen two doxxings, which, for perspective, is the same number of pedestrians I've seen hit and killed by cars in that time. So personally it's just not something I worry about beyond basic mindfulness of the possibility. I guess maybe if I got into a fandom where people were fucking insane and doxxing all over the place, then I'd be warier, but I've been in some wanky fandoms and doxxing has still been very rare. *shrug*

Also, to be clear, you don't need to convince me that antis are worse than the people who are so kink positive they end up unintentionally implying that people who feel anything but horny delight about their own kinks are less valid. Of course the antis are worse. They're not even in the same ballpark. The fact that I personally feel worse after an invalidating run-in with the latter type of person than I feel after a run-in with the former does not mean the latter is doing worse things or is a worse person; of course they're not. Of course they're not.