[ SECRET POST #5930 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #5930 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.


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Notes:

Will be missing a Friday post this week (traveling!). Just a heads up!

Secrets Left to Post: 02 pages, 30 secrets from Secret Submission Post #850.
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Comments

[fscom]

03. https://i.imgur.com/91FzDuV.jpg

[(Anonymous)]

That is AO3 culture for you.

[(Anonymous)]

We get it you hate AO3... Give it rest.

[(Anonymous)]

The snow glows white on the mountain tonight,

[(Anonymous)]

You know, there are a lot of decaf brands on the market today that are just as tasty as the real thing.

[feotakahari]

Profic isn’t the opposite of fanfic. If you put your original books up for free on your website, that isn’t profic either.

[(Anonymous)]

I mean, historically, that's the original use of fanfiction - "putting your original books up for free on your website" is the modern equivalent of how the word was originally used

Fanfiction being transformative fiction based on existing works is a later development

[(Anonymous)]

If it originally meant just original stories, then where did the fan part come from? I thought the fan referred to writing about things you're a fan of?

[(Anonymous)]

That's interesting. Do you have sources?

[(Anonymous)]

Wait, then what is it? I'm a little confused by the secret combined with this comment...

[(Anonymous)]

"Profic" by definition is professional, so it would be written for money.

Original fiction that you post for free isn't professional, by definition.

[(Anonymous)]

Consider unclenching. It’s a shorthand.

[(Anonymous)]

Shorthand for.. "books"? I think "books" is short enough that it doesn't really need further abbreviation. Especially if the short version is one letter and a hyphen longer, LOL.

[(Anonymous)]

It's for "things being written with the goal of making a professional career out of them". Many of them are not books! In fact "pro fic" and variants has been used in a lot of fields as a shorthand to contrast short fiction publishers who pay pro rates from ones that don't. There are also many books written that aren't pro-fic.

[(Anonymous)]

Sounds like someone's feeling a little insecure and defensive about writing fanfic as opposed to professional published fiction. Kind of like saying someone is "98 years young". It's okay to be old, you guys. I assure you that if I ever reach that age, I will insist upon being called "ancient" and "older than dirt", etc. etc. because it's an accomplishment.

[(Anonymous)]

This is fine, and even traditional.

[pantswarrior]

Yeah, I have been hearing this terminology for like 20 years as the typical way to distinguish between different fiction, sometimes written by the same person. Like "Here's a link where you can read my fanfic, and here's a link where you can buy/download my pro-fic."

I thought this was standard. Or at least, well-known.

[esteefee]

Yeah, I've been hearing pro fic as a term long before AO3.

[(Anonymous)]

I've definitely seen the distinction made for years, considering there are published authors who used to write fanfiction and published authors who still write fanfiction (but maybe on the down low or their profic is in a very different genre).

[(Anonymous)]

"Pro-fic" is a useful umbrella term for original, published fictional writings--not all of which are novels, or even "books."

[(Anonymous)]

I'm actually with you, OP. "pro-fic" while technically correct doesn't usually read to my eye/ear as actual professional book-writing fiction, since "fic" is shorthand for fan-fiction, not book-fiction. So a "pro-fic" colloquially would be published, sanctioned fanfic, e.g. a Star Trek or Dr. Who novel.

but then, not only linguistic lines are blurring, genre fiction is blurring the line between authors and readers so I'm not shocked. It's annoying, so I'm with you on that, but at best I'll roll my eyes. terminally online fandom is gonna terminally online fandom, I say with zero sense of irony while on my only online fandom platform of the day.

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, I was thinking that would work for a tie-in novel, a novelization of a screenplay or movie, or a book based on canon now in the public domain. Basically, authorized or allowed fic of someone else's canon that is published and sold. That is something that absolutely deserves the pro-fic label. Though, like you wrote, it would be technically correct for anything that could be considered professional fiction, that just doesn't really seem to fit the implication of it.

[(Anonymous)]

Hate to tell you this, but "fic" has been short for "fiction" for a whole lot longer that it's been short for "fiction specifically written about other people's characters or settings".

(And I still know people who are old enough that they call their fanwriting pieces "fictions".)

[(Anonymous)]

This is a weird thing to read in the modern world. It makes me feel like I've been absolutely out the loop from humanity.

[(Anonymous)]

If the term is useful, it's fine. I've seen fanfic authors use it distinguish their fanfic from their published work - which makes sense, because 'profic' is a lot easier to say/write than published fiction. I don't see the problem.