[ SECRET POST #5943 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #5943 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.


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06. [SPOILERS for Triangle Strategy and Devil Survivor]




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07. [WARNING for homophobia, physical assault/violence]




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09. [WARNING for discussion of rape]





























Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 00 pages, 00 secrets from Secret Submission Post #849.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

[(Anonymous)]

Why do you think anyone is mad or is trying to withhold happiness? People are reserving final judgment until the end and that’s perfectly normal. Some people choose not to and engage with WIPs in all kinds of ways. But obviously not to the same extent and not always in the same ways.
OP really does seem to think kudos are the magic currency you put into the internet and get fanfic—-and they want some. If op wants instant gratification, they can post their completed work and it will get more engagement, wether you think that’s how it should be or not.

[(Anonymous)]

It's right there in the comment I responded to first:

"it’s a huge no no to leave kudos on them because the next update may contain some stuff you don’t approve and then ever after you’re associated with that fic"

Reserve final judgement, fine. But THIS is not that. This is deliberately saying that you ENJOY the work but you REFUSE to say so until you are ASSURED that they will continue to conform to your moral framework. It's the commenter version of what the secret OP is doing. "I won't write anymore until you engage" "I won't engage unless you sign a purity pledge" They're both douches.

I rarely engage with WIPs because I don't like getting invested only for it to never be finished. You don't engage with WIPs because you want it morally vetted first. We are not the same.

[(Anonymous)]

You’re assuming everyone ITT is withholding kudos in case they develop a moral objection to the fic. ONE person said that and it isn’t even clear they meant it, there’s a follow on comment that is written he same way that says they worded it wrong or something like that.
The majority of people don’t do it because of morals, they do it because WIPs are notorious for starting strong and either fizzling out or turning to senseless shit and people don’t want to be seen endorsing stuff like that.

[(Anonymous)]

Was I responding to everyone else? No, I was responding to a specific comment. I never once said "Everyone withholds kudos from WIP because they might have a moral objection." You said ONE person said it, and I responded to that ONE person. The follow on comment doesn't correct any wording, they even semi-double down to say it's "normal to reserve kudos" (not a finite resource) "for a completed fic." Damn, AO3. Look at all those thousands upon thousands of abnormal people leaving kudos on WIPs.... what weirdos.

I don't leave kudos on WIP because I don't read them. You read a WIP and like it, and don't give kudos because of something that MIGHT happen in the future to avoid......what? Again. Kudos are not: Finite, a magic button to make more fic appear, endorsement for any kind of moral position.

We are not the same.

[(Anonymous)]

I don’t read WIPs but I am in actual fandom so am aware of some of the world rather than just what’s up my backside LOL
People don’t kudos WIPs. Yeah some do but less than half the people that read them. And most people only read completed works. That’s it. That’s all. OP wants kudos? Then they should write something that will attract more readers.

[(Anonymous)]

This has nothing to do with the secret OP who wants to be paid in engagement. This is all about the "it's a no-no to kudos WIP" commenter.

We have no way of knowing if most people only read completed works. There's absolutely no way to know. There's no way to know if less than half the people that read WIP kudos them. There's NO WAY TO KNOW exactly how many people actually READ the WIP. We don't know how many of the hits are repeat readers. You're saying that because that's what you do, that's what the people around you might do. But you have no way of knowing if that's what MOST people do.

What we do know is that plenty of people kudos WIP. I don't understand where this is coming from, because we have DATA that proves you wrong. There's a mega WIP in my fandom that has 10,068 kudos and 6762 comments. That's 10,068 individual people in ONE fandom that left kudos on ONE WIP. Oh look, I just reloaded it and now it has 10,118 kudos.

[(Anonymous)]

“so am aware of some of the world rather than just what’s up my backside LOL”

Provably untrue.