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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2023-04-30 02:59 pm

[ SECRET POST #5959 ]


⌈ Secret Post #5959 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2023-04-30 08:24 pm (UTC)(link)
I have no opinion on TMA but I agree with the overarching thrust of the point here. Narrative podcast recommendations seem very hit-or-miss and unreliable. Not helped by the fact that it's a medium where you have to devote a pretty significant amount of time to really get a handle on the vibe and quality of a show.

(Anonymous) 2023-04-30 09:50 pm (UTC)(link)
People generally seem to be very bad at recommending podcasts. I have a very specific list of things I like and whenever I ask for recs people rec the same dozen podcasts that don't do those things.

(Anonymous) 2023-04-30 10:09 pm (UTC)(link)
What things do you like?

(Anonymous) 2023-04-30 10:18 pm (UTC)(link)
Nonfiction about interesting science- or history- adjacent topics that consists of a small group of hosts who are friends who are all interested in the topic having a fun rambly conversation about it, and not particularly slickly produced.

This tends to net me recs for interview/guest host based podcasts or one person talking about a thing by themself or podcasts about fictional TV shows, for some reason. Sometimes improv comedy.

(Anonymous) 2023-04-30 10:12 pm (UTC)(link)
I got bored with TMA too, but the small text feels like a silly complaint. Not talking about anything you personally are afraid of isn't a failure of the show. The writers can't read minds to find something every single listener is afraid of.

(Anonymous) 2023-04-30 10:41 pm (UTC)(link)
It is a failure when the explicit text of the overarching plot is "these are all the major and primary and primodial fears of which all other fears are somehow manifestations". It wouldn't doesn't bother me when other horror doesn't target my deepest fears, which are mostly not terribly cinematic. But when your main structure comes out swinging with "this is the nature of the spectrum of fear" it really undermines the whole cosmology and my ability to suspend disbelief if it's all heights and spiders and eyes and not, like, fear of failure. Despite that being a pretty easy fear to work into at least 80% of the main characters' arcs! It's such a glaring oversight that it ruins everything else for me.

(Anonymous) 2023-05-01 03:29 am (UTC)(link)
. . . you know that in TMA the heights and spiders and eyes are also metaphorical, right? Honestly it sounds like you read a Wikipedia summary of it and didn't actually listen.

(Which, if you weren't enjoying it, fine! Don't keep listening. But saying that the TMA fears are just literal eyes and spiders and heights is categorically not true. Fear of failure, by the way, comes up in several Eye-related stories, as the fear of people knowing what a failure someone "really" is.)

And I'm not saying TMA is flawless or the greatest story EVER, so nobody needs to get in my face about that.

(Anonymous) 2023-05-01 03:30 am (UTC)(link)
SA as above: oops, should have made it clear that I am NAYRT.

(Anonymous) 2023-05-01 04:31 am (UTC)(link)
Lol say you never actually listened to it without saying it. All this fears are a metaphorical and spectrum.
Fucking spiders is a metaphor for fear of manipulation etc. It's not even subtle.
Also character arcs can't include every fear omg. They include things they are feared of. If you never were scared of being lonely and have been isolating yourself at the same time, what can I say, good for you.

(Anonymous) 2023-05-01 09:39 am (UTC)(link)
DA

Not sure where all these defensive justifications for a random show are coming from. If you really need to blame some anon for not appreciating the thing enough, or not interpreting it the "right" way, thought, I'm thinking it's probably not that good to begin with. And if you need to translate what the creators meant, often that's actually not in canon, or they didn't really manage to communicate.

(Anonymous) 2023-05-01 10:26 am (UTC)(link)
I am defensive because I like this show??? We are on F!S it's for fandom discussions, so I can and would defend things I like.
I can understand not liking this podcast, it's long, it can be boring for people, a lot of people didn't enjoy the ending, or they don't like characters. Whatever. But no show should cater to people who has no glimpse of critical thinking, really.

(Anonymous) 2023-05-01 05:02 pm (UTC)(link)
I listened through most of season 3, I think. And I know there's metaphorical sides to it, but that's now how the show itself presents the core of the entities? Like it always felt like that was happening on a 'we're-so-clever' layer, while the actual *plot* was still focused on the showy stuff.

I've isolated myself a lot. I'm not scared of it. Miserable: yes, sometimes. Scared: no. I've almost died a couple times, and I made peace with it. The fear that used to keep me awake at night sobbing was the deep-down depression fear that I'm poison, that I'm bad and the source of bad things for everyone around me. Which seems like it should have been really, really easy to work into a show about people turning into avatars for eldritch fear gods! And yet.

Anyway 1 half-baked fic had a Mirror entity that made it work for me, so it's really not that hard, guys.

But the real point is: all of you are so freaking impressed buy this thing with incredibly sophmore level metaphors and no compelling cosmology underneath it, so I can't trust your taste!

(Anonymous) 2023-05-01 07:49 pm (UTC)(link)
I mean, it's basically Jon's arc, especially season 4 and partly season 5. But whatevs.
I am so sorry that you had to live through this things, anon.

But. I can't say about all of the fandom, but I am not /impressed/ by "sophmore level metaphors", I am highly entertained by them. *shrugs*

(Anonymous) 2023-04-30 10:13 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm not generally a podcast person (I'm enjoying Bridgewater and meaning to get back to Dark Dice and that's pretty much it), but man, the way TMA dominates any discussion of podcasts-- at least fictional podcasts-- is so annoying. I couldn't get into it, and it's like... the runaway popularity means you really CAN'T trust the reviews that mention it to give you accurate information. It's just the thing that every podcast gets compared to, whether it's the genre or the vibe or the types of characters, or just 'this is a fictional podcast I know is popular so I will mention it to get you to look at this other fiction podcast'... I'm just so turned off by it.

(Anonymous) 2023-05-01 09:43 am (UTC)(link)
That sounds impressively obnoxious, and I had no idea, because I have tinnitus and can't comfortably listen to any podcasts.

(Anonymous) 2023-04-30 10:20 pm (UTC)(link)
I dropped TMA before the huge popularity spike and was quite confused when it suddenly popped up on my social media everywhere all the time. I even thought about getting back into it but meh, couldn't be bothered. There was a reason I dropped it, after all.

(Anonymous) 2023-04-30 11:08 pm (UTC)(link)
I binged TMA in a fugue state between seasons 4 and 5 and then season 5 was incredibly disappointing to me (I vastly prefer the first season before you get super into the myth arc). I haven’t really relistened because I worry I won’t necessary enjoy the plot knowing how it ends.

(Anonymous) 2023-05-01 03:57 am (UTC)(link)
But the WORMS! Are you not HORRIFIED?

(Anonymous) 2023-05-01 04:53 pm (UTC)(link)
I left a 10 pound bag of potatoes in a non-climate-controlled apartment for a year during the pandemic. Cleaning up both liquid and solid layers of dead and living bugs out of that drawer pretty much inured me to bug stuff lmao. Gross: yes. Scary: no.

The bugs I used to be actually afraid of as a kid were ants but after living in a tropical area I got over that too, and I always thought spiders were cute good friends who eat mosquitoes.

(Anonymous) 2023-05-01 04:34 am (UTC)(link)
I love tma, loved it before it bacame popular and your small text is... interesting. But I can relate, people started reccing it at every corner and it is mighty annoying. Anyway, for me tma isn't the greatest offender since as I said I like it. But all the rec lists have podcasts I genuinely hate so it's difficult to believe this recs.

(Anonymous) 2023-05-02 12:49 am (UTC)(link)
What's TMA?