case: (Default)
Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2023-05-01 07:04 pm

[ SECRET POST #5960 ]


⌈ Secret Post #5960 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.


01.



__________________________________________________



02.
[Arknights]



__________________________________________________



03.



__________________________________________________



04.



__________________________________________________



05.



__________________________________________________



06.

























Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 01 pages, 24 secrets from Secret Submission Post #852.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

(Anonymous) 2023-05-02 02:48 am (UTC)(link)
There was a time not very long ago when most people just assumed that anything that was posted publicly on the internet could be found and read by anyone and protected themselves as much as they felt they needed to. People need to go back to that instead of assuming that only the people they want to see their stuff will see it and that they'll only interact with it in pre-approved ways.

(Anonymous) 2023-05-02 03:41 am (UTC)(link)
This, FFS. I feel like folks have lost touch with reality. Write what you want and post where you want it, but don't be naive.

(Anonymous) 2023-05-02 09:08 am (UTC)(link)
Yepppppp

(Anonymous) 2023-05-02 09:33 am (UTC)(link)
+ one kajillion

(Anonymous) 2023-05-02 11:05 am (UTC)(link)
Agreed. Half the responses in this secret thread sound strange when you compare their sentiments to how people used to think. People saying things like these celebrities are in the wrong for “breaking containment” or that there’s some clandestine agreement they’re knowingly going against.

I can get the arguments that a celebrity that has more power and influence sending at least dozens more people than the fic would usually get can seem iffy to people, like an abuse of that power and influence. Especially if the celebrity doesn’t really get fic or fandom, and/or doesn’t like the fic, and makes fun of it. Because then those dozens+ of new people could possibly be hostile, and troll the writer, or be rude in the comments. I can understand the feeling of anxiety or dread when you find out the person/people you wrote a fic about find it, and the feeling of humiliation some have hearing them read it. I’ve never wrote RPF, and I don’t really personally like it, so I don’t know the feeling from experience. Just conceptually and sympathetically.

I can get all of this, but I still disagree that the subject(s) of the fic have no right to read it aloud. They absolutely do. Would it be better if they just read it on their own without bringing their entire audience to it? Maybe. But when you put something out into a public space, the people who read it aren’t breaking any rule just because they’re the ones that the fic was written about or that they’re doing it in front of an audience.

Some people have said that it’s not just RPF that people want to be separate from creators. And I get that, the fic writing atmosphere isn’t the same when you know the creators will see it vs. when they’re none the wiser and there is the desired separation. But it’s still different when it’s RPF. Because this isn’t just someone’s fictional world and characters being written about. These are real people who have been made the subject of smut. I’m not saying that to mean it’s wrong to write RPF, it doesn’t interest me, but I think it’s perfectly fine. I’m just trying to say that it’s not completely comparable.

(Anonymous) 2023-05-02 06:39 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, especially with AO3 which gives you the easy option - there's whole RPF fandoms who lock everything to the archive, and I've never heard of creators breaking that lock, but if you post in unlocked you are explicitly saying it's okay for any rando to read.

I still have ethical issues with pulling in stuff that was done for free as part of a gift/hobby economy and using it in for-profit content without even asking the creators, but that's a much broader issue than reading fic on camera.