[ SECRET POST #5960 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #5960 ⌋

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[(Anonymous)]

Ehhhhhh.

I get your point but it's still probably better practice to give people a heads up.

[(Anonymous)]

But did the original author give them the heads up they were about to publish porn about them?

[(Anonymous)]

It's a nice courtesy but not necessary.

If you publish something like that in a public place... the public is going to see it. You can't really control what the public will do with it at that point.

And the author has a right to their feelings

[(Anonymous)]

I don't think the author has much right to say "you can't do that!" but I think being upset is a legit reaction. Also, did they do it mocking the authors? Because if so that's a whole different thing and not cool.

Re: And the author has a right to their feelings

[(Anonymous)]

No. https://youtu.be/bkFafTiluSs

Re: And the author has a right to their feelings

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, I agree with you. Like, there's definitely a risk that anything posted on the internet can end up in places it's not intended to be, and if you don't understand that risk you shouldn't be on the internet. But just because that risk is there, doesn't make it not an asshole move for someone to intentionally boost something far beyond the reach/scope/audience for which it was originally intended. Especially if it's done with the intention to point and laugh at the author.

[(Anonymous)]

Me who has never written RPF nor smut, trying to map this onto the boring vanilla kinds of fanfic I have written: ... Nope, I'm drawing a blank, I don't know how I'd feel.

[(Anonymous)]

When push comes to shove, I agree. I do think, though, that "punching down" is still a relevant aspect of this issue though. I mean, there is a very important difference between "Let's publicly read RPF of ourselves and laugh at how ridiculous it is," which I think is completely fair and reasonable, and "Let's publicly read RPF of ourselves and laugh at the author for being a sad, pathetic weirdo who can't write and doesn't know how sex works, omg what a loser." The latter is needlessly cruel, IMO, even if you're totally within your rights to do it.

I have no idea how brutal these guys were about it. But if they were more in line with the former example than the latter, then lol, more power to them!

However, as an alternative scenario: if a third party takes it upon themselves to "surprise" a celeb by making them engage with RPF written about themselves, then in that instance I think both the celeb and the author are perfectly within their rights to be upset by that third party's actions.

[(Anonymous)]

Of all the celebs I've seen, they were the most respectful.

[(Anonymous)]

They weren't making fun of the authors though. Just surprising each other with the content of the stories.

Eh

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah they have the right, but I just think it's in bad taste.

Re: Eh

[(Anonymous)]

I think it's in bad taste to write porn about real people who didn't consent to it so in my eyes, it evens out.

[(Anonymous)]

I haven't watched the gmm one, but I've watched other rpf subjects read fiction about themselves and it's usually in good fun, though there are exceptions. They mostly seem curious. I just can't fathom writing porn or 500,000 word epics about real people and expecting them never to crack that shit open.

[(Anonymous)]

RPF authors don't like to be reminded that the Ps they're F-ing are R.

[(Anonymous)]

I knew a lady who got her Twilight fic read on some nationwide show (GMA?) by the actor who played Aro. I remember her being flattered but not overly any other emotion. I was pissed off because it was an AU fic with no relation to the original material. It was a fantasy world that the author once said could be on another planet for all we care. She ended up publishing it with very little changed and you would not know it was Twific.

So the original aim was kind of...eh, to embarrass the reader or the writer or the fandom? It didn't quite work out. I mean why choose an AU when there were plenty of canon fics out there?

[(Anonymous)]

I mean that particular actor has read fanfic of his own free choice. There's a non-zero choice he's read fanfic I've written, but I am mercifully unaware if he has.

[(Anonymous)]

I mean technically you're allowed to be a bully but it's still off-putting. I don't know that this was specifically bullying but the *vast* majority if creators interacting with fanfiction has been negative and it makes me feel ill just thinking about it.

[(Anonymous)]

I've been noticing this very ugly sense of entitlement of FS recently when it comes to fanfics.
Guess fandom community is just dead and dying with its empathy huh?

[(Anonymous)]

It does, I agree. But what exactly do you mean when you say this? I genuinely don’t know if you mean the RPF fic writers are entitled for not wanting the subjects of the fic to read it, or that people reacting negatively to the subjects for reading it are entitled. Or maybe you’re saying the people who are saying GMM should be aloud to read the fic are entitled?

[(Anonymous)]

I mean, it depends on the situation. I know absolutely nothing about the fandom here, but if it's got a large audience, it's a good idea to let *anyone* know when you're about to suddenly throw a spotlight on them, because having a spotlight thrown on you unexpectedly can be dangerous and/or lead to you doing stupid stuff that will reflect badly back on the people with the spotlight. (If they're doing it in a way that's reasonably anonymous... maybe, but it's hard to see how they could do that in this day and age.)

If it's got a very small audience... then they have just pissed of a significant fraction of their audience by ignoring their wishes, and that just seems like a bad choice.

[(Anonymous)]

There was a time not very long ago when most people just assumed that anything that was posted publicly on the internet could be found and read by anyone and protected themselves as much as they felt they needed to. People need to go back to that instead of assuming that only the people they want to see their stuff will see it and that they'll only interact with it in pre-approved ways.

[(Anonymous)]

This, FFS. I feel like folks have lost touch with reality. Write what you want and post where you want it, but don't be naive.

[(Anonymous)]

I just don't think that rpf writers have a greater right to privacy than the people they are writing graphic puppy play about.

If they wanna feel uncomfortable that the targets of the fic saw it, well, that's a valid feeling. But that doesn't give them the right to spread things on the web and then say, Oops, I changed my mind now that *I'm* the uncomfortable one.

[(Anonymous)]

You know that celebrities already know about AO3 and slash and fanfic, right? They've seen it.