[ SECRET POST #5960 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #5960 ⌋

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Comments

Re: Based on 6

[meadowphoenix]

I think people who aren't sorta surrounded by catholicism miss it because the biblical stuff is a big hint about where the narrative is leading, and it only gets more biblical as it goes along.

Re: Based on 6

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, Pullman’s “take that” to C.S. Lewis somehow managed to be both more heavy-handed and less feminist than a bunch of religious allegory fairytales written in the ‘50s. It’s a neat trick.

Re: Based on 6

[(Anonymous)]

I can agree that it’s less feminist, or at least just as un-feminist as contemporary works at the time. Don’t agree at all that it’s more heavy-handed than Narnia or most religious allegory fairytales, especially ones from the 50s.

Re: Based on 6

[(Anonymous)]

There are multiple chapters of Pullman that are literal “file off the serial numbers” Apocrypha fanfic.

Re: Based on 6

[(Anonymous)]

Sure, but that’s not automatically MORE heavy-handed than religious allegory fairytales of the time, it’s AS heavy-handed at most. That’s what I meant, not that it isn’t heavy-handed at all.

Re: Based on 6

[(Anonymous)]

SA

And all that is also just my opinion, not me trying to speak objectively.

Re: Based on 6

[(Anonymous)]

It’s kinda funny how biblical it gets considering how many Christian groups call the series atheist propaganda just because Philip Pullman is an atheist lol.

Re: Based on 6

[(Anonymous)]

SA

Apparently some think it gets biblical because Pullman wanted to show how stupid Christianity was, that it being biblical was part of it’s supposed atheist propaganda? I’ve read the books several times, and I just don’t see it that way.

New anon

[(Anonymous)]

Me neither, and I got put off of it even though it used to be my favorite series when all my atheist friends online insisted it was atheist propaganda (which they hated because they said it made all atheists look intolerant, when they themselves respected Christians' beliefs) and essentially patted me on the head and called me an idiot for saying I never read it that way. After that I never wanted to read the books again because I'd get frustrated looking for something I couldn't see and feeling like they were right, I must be an idiot.

Re: Based on 6

[(Anonymous)]

I mean, that was Pullman’s intent per Pullman, but that doesn’t mean he was effective at it.

Re: Based on 6

[meadowphoenix]

it's definitely anti-Catholic Church but that's just Pullman being right.

Re: Based on 6

[(Anonymous)]

I totally missed all the Biblical stuff until the very end. And then when I was venting to my mother about it she was like "um yeah, the whole series is super biblical." She was raised going to Sunday school etc, my parents raised us with zero religion so I really only know the cultural osmosis stuff and it's never really the first thing I see.