[ SECRET POST #5961 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #5961 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

not OP

Yes, but there are different standards. If the two main characters in something are a man and a woman, it's just expected that they're going to get together. Every. damn. time. It's exhausting to those of us who want something different for once.

That doesn't happen with two male (or female) characters, even if some people ship them. It's just not the same thing at all.

[(Anonymous)]

nayrt but agreed. I love het ships but I hate forced romances. Just let two people be good buddies and nothing more, at least some of the time.

[(Anonymous)]

Exactly. The default expectation is that if a man and a woman are friends in fiction, that relationship is eventually going to turn romantic on one or both sides, and that's stupid and toxic and reductive on multiple fronts because it implies that the only possible reason that a man and woman could have to want to be friends is that they're ultimately looking to tap that.

[(Anonymous)]

DA

I would understand if you were frustrated with canon if it was the direction the canon was going to, but if it is just fanon, then who cares? You can still only like them as friends, no one is stopping you.

[(Anonymous)]

It seems to me that it's just as valid to be annoyed when fandom insists on shoving a male and female character together romantically when canon itself has explicitly stated that there is nothing like that between them.

[(Anonymous)]

DA

Even if I'm someone who values representation of male and female friendship that don't lead to romantic love, I still don't get the angriness towards fans shipping such people. Ship and let's ship, you know? Just don't go into the parts of the fandom that enjoy that ship and you should be mostly fine if they're not invading space where the ship is explicitly unwelcome?

And that's not a testament on how they feel about all male/female friendship in media, just one sample, anyway. It's also not like they're influencing a trope that had happened for a very long time, so you can't even really say they're contributing to the problem (unless they're actively campaigning for the canonisation of the ship?) in a significant way?

[(Anonymous)]

I think part of the problem is that it honestly feels like male and female characters are never allowed to just be friends in media. If it's not canon itself forcing a romance, then it's fandom doing the same thing. And that just gets grating after a while, you know? It's easy to find tons of fictional male/male or female/female friendship, but male/female friendship that stays friendship and never turns romantic is hard to find, so I can't blame people for being exasperated when they finally find it and then fandom is all about the shipping.

[(Anonymous)]

With me, probably most of the ships I like in fanon are ships I would not like to happen in canon, and I know there are lots of other shippers who feel the same. We don't necessarily bring up that fact whenever we talk about our ships, because that would get tedious and unnecessary. But you can't always assume that what we ship in fanon is what we want in canon.

[(Anonymous)]

AYRT

I mean, sure, their feelings are valid, I can see why they would be tired of it. But my m/m ship is explicit only friends in canon and I still ship them. Another explicitly hates each other in canon and I still ship it. Why are they being explicit friends in the canon mean people can't ship them?

I love ships who are only friends in canon, m/m, f/f, or m/f, because they always seem to have a deeper connection than intentionally romantic ones.