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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2023-05-02 07:00 pm

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(Anonymous) 2023-05-02 11:22 pm (UTC)(link)
Or maybe some people just like shipping ships where characters start out as friends? Plenty of male friendships are slashed in fandom too. Friendship to romance is a trope that just works for a lot of people.

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(Anonymous) 2023-05-02 11:33 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm with you. I had a fandom years ago where there was a man and woman who were good friends. I and a handful of other people wanted them to stay friends but most of the fandom shipped them, and the amount of crap we got for not shipping them was just ridiculous.

(Anonymous) 2023-05-02 11:45 pm (UTC)(link)
God yes. When I first joined fandom I almost immediately went into the slash side and never came back out, because Every Single Fandom did this. As a baby ace, I just wanted my ladies to be awesome without having to suck face with a man, which was apparently too much to ask.

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Man I love close platonic bonds between men and women that don’t turn romantic, the thing is I might even ship them in fandom but that doesn’t mean I want it to be canon, I’m just someone who likes friends to lovers with ships. But there absolutely needs to be more strong friendships between men and women in media that aren’t romantic because it’s so dang uncommon for that to happen without romance. Usually the only chance I get that is with brother and sister relationships, which I also love but it’s not the same yanno?

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Eh

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Ah, the age-old fandom divide! I'm mostly a femslasher which made being in X-Files fandom back in the day quite tricky so not being into shipping (i.e. Mulder/Scully, that's where the term comes from) caught a lot of accusations of hating Scully or (less often) hating Mulder. But I didn't! I loved their intense bond! I just didn't want it to be a romantic relationship.

I think this divide was worst in Star Trek AOS fandom, where the big divide was between Spock/Uhura shippers and Kirk/Spock shippers. One side accused the other of being misogynist and racist (which was only occasionally true) and the other side accused their rival ship of being homophobic (which was only occasionally true).

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(Anonymous) 2023-05-03 12:49 am (UTC)(link)
I'm wondering if the fandom is X-Files? :)

I'm not even ardently anti Mulder/Scully but recently got into a discussion with someone online who kept attacking me for not immediately stating they should be together after "everything they've been through". My argument was they already are in a strong relationship and from that pov it doesn't matter particularly to me if they add romance to it. (Again, I think they do have chemistry and make a cute couple. I just don't build my entire enjoyment of the series over whether they become one).

I agree, OP. Every time a man and woman are on screen together it seems, they ultimately get together. However, oftentimes the same isn't true of two men (or two women) despite having the same markers as fictional het couples of "being in love".

The double standards irritates me. For example, take Dean and Castiel from Supernatural. As slash shippers state, had they been a man and woman, they would have been together. However, whenever this is pointed out, non-shippers always say "why can't two men just be friends?" (Because whenever it's a man and woman, they are never allowed to "just be friends" and are always eventually placed together.)

So men and women can't "Just be friends" but same sex main characters are rarely together at the end, despite slash shippers seeing every hint of them wanting to be a couple. I'm not saying two male characters can't be "just friends" or that main male/female characters don't become romantic. It would be nice to have some variety, ocassionally.

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(Anonymous) 2023-05-03 01:13 am (UTC)(link)
I agree with this secret in principle: more strong male/female friendships would be great. However, in practice, the stronger the friendship is in canon, the more likely I am to ship it. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

I shipped the hell out of Mulder and Scully, for instance, because they were way closer to each other than to anyone else, and they had an Us Against The World dynamic going on, and they had been through the wringer together, and god damn it that's the stuff. I'm just always going to ship that dynamic, basically.

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(Anonymous) 2023-05-03 01:20 am (UTC)(link)
Mmmm. I remember how much I *adored* Edgin and Holga's Epic Friendship/Life Partners relationship in the new DnD movie.

(And also, for meta reasons, glad because it also meant that Holga wasn't about to get killed off or harpy-ised in the name of shipping Edgin with the hot paladin. I'm... old, and v. cynical.)

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[personal profile] pantswarrior 2023-05-03 01:35 am (UTC)(link)
I absolutely agree, but then I also feel this way about a bunch of close male friendships in media, and about siblings that are common incest ships, and...

People are gonna ship what they want to ship, and I'm not going to like a lot of it, but whatever. As long as we don't harsh anyone's squee, it isn't harming anyone to silently grumble that we just don't see the characters that way, eh? ;)

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I know nothing about Sea Beast. But this sounds like an awesome idea.

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I think I would like that a lot.

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The movie was cute, but what the hell was the Royal Plan? There were two solid steps of just "????" and "???" before the profit. But it works? Why? It seems like such an expense!

(Anonymous) 2023-05-03 02:03 am (UTC)(link)
This got absolutely no screen time -- i recall seeing no ads, but I will check it out and A+ idea, OP!

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Nah. Xianxia movies and dramas have been dressing their sinister characters like evil, beautiful elves for decades, as much as the budget allows.

I wouldn't say Game of Thrones stole the look from them, either. Darkly shiny bling is darkly shiny bling, yeah?

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(Anonymous) 2023-05-02 11:24 pm (UTC)(link)
hoteps be hoteppin

the sad part is I'd so be down for a fictional historical drama with a black cleopatra in it

but this is just proving americans imposing their racial issues all over the rest of the world isn't limited to the white ones :(

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My naiive theory is this...

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This is (one reason) why The X-Files was so great.

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I don't even know what the Kony 2012 video is but I want more MST3K or Beavis and Butthead riffs in general.

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[personal profile] fscom 2023-05-02 11:15 pm (UTC)(link)
NS, NF, etc.

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