[ SECRET POST #5961 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #5961 ⌋

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[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, though to be fair under racist US rules on who is and isn't Black, Cleopatra probably did have at least a little Nubian ancestry via her father, which in the US in many times would make her Black. Mostly Macedonian and probably some Persian, but who is and isn't Black in the US is fucking complicated and specific and it's a show made in the US.

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DA

Anon, unless you're going by neo-Nazi ancestry-obsessiveness over who is and isn't black, someone whose skin looks white generally does not count. And someone dark-skinned does. Yes, that's technically colorism as opposed to strictly racism, and reaps all the false positives and negatives inherent in squashing those two concepts together. But most humans in the US don't insist on looking at pictures of your two parents and four grandparents before making assumptions about your race. Promise. They look at your face, your hair, your clothes, and how you talk. And whichever other clues happen to be around. That can be plenty destructive and hurtful enough, but it generally isn't deep or complicated.

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DA

I do believe this to be true. Which is why, and I say this as an European, the discourse on "racism", ethnicity and xenophobia is very different in EU and USA.
Or, it SHOULD be, but online it's a mess and some people (both European themselves and Americans) use US parameters to discuss xenophobia in European countries and NAH. WHAT?!

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DA
What annoys me so much is how a lot of Americans (and fellow Europeans who spend too much time on US social media and just parrot stuff blindly) take Europeans saying "your US-centric racism/xenopohia issues don't exactly apply in my country/region we have different issues than you" to mean "lol we don't HAVE racism problems here".

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There are also a lot of online Europeans who flat out say that racism is an American thing and we don’t have racism here. So I can see where people get confused.

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DA from above

+1. Yep. It happens. Usually it's racist/xenophobic Europeans who do that. Often it's people who just want to point out that "our racism" is different than "American racism TM" (which is true), but they do it very clumsily, thus ending up denying the existence of xenophobia as a whole in their own European country.

Shit is complicated. And discussing these issues on shitty SNS like twitter isn't doing anyone any favour. :/