[ SECRET POST #5964 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #5964 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

>Are you serious with this? If you specifically feel the need to say that the reason you don't ship het is because there are no well-written women characters, then yes, people are going to question that.

Serious, yes. But I'll own that it might not have been especially helpful to put it like that. What I was saying is not that there are no well-written women characters. It's that the ones I've seen don't have whatever it is that would make them characters I feel like writing about or shipping. They do stand on their own, more or less. Great. That's a vast improvement over when they couldn't even do that. But no, I don't think people "should be" defaulting to assuming I am an ideological enemy of theirs just because their faves don't move me.

Anon posted the thing about the amount of female characters who are still identified in-relation-to-some-guy because someone tried to invalidate their point by asserting that they were imagining it. That lazy characterization of women "hasn't been a thing since the 90's." Which seems like complete bullshit to me, aside from being disrespectful.

(I don't think "how many women are identified by their job" humanizes them any better or says much about the quality of characterization. "This character has a job" is not the same as "this character has an identity," and much less a memorable, compelling one. But that's me, and I think the overall point stands.)

I appreciate that you're not one of the people starting fandom wank with slash fans. If I felt like the original complaint was "there are no good female characters" I probably would have stayed out of it. But this is all with the backdrop of someone expressing incredulity at a secret that says Genshin is the first canon where they feel like shipping women with men, and the female characterization is a step up. I hear that and go "okay, I'm glad OP." Not "where have you been and how did you miss all our wonderful, fictional American women??"

I didn't get the impression that people mentioned lots of well written women in reply. They mentioned Joss Whedon's various badass-yet-alluring-young-waifs from Buffy, an FBI agent from a show that ran for most of the 90's, and Babylon 5. I'm sure I could think of some TV that featured women with solid characterization, too, but women that inspire the sort of soul-deep recognition and loyalty that some of the men got? Not a one.

I'm beyond sure that could exist in media. I want it to. As far as I know, it just doesn't, yet.

[(Anonymous)]

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I also didn't see a lot of attractive well written popular media female characters mentioned here. Guess there are not many.

[(Anonymous)]

Wow.

[(Anonymous)]

Well, if Buffy's what comes to mind then there's not much to choose from

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That was just one example, and it’s not an example that disproves anyone’s point just because some people don’t like it or didn’t see it in a formative age. It’s fine to dislike actually, but it’s a good example of strong, well-written female characters, and an example of one that existed in the 90s.