[ SECRET POST #5967 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #5967 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

It's a shame you had to be around people who turned against Spike, because what I remember is that the show pulled what it thought would be a trump card to get the whole audience to treat him like a villain again ... and overall, it didn't work. Sounds like you missed out on when fans who already loved Spike doubled down on it, but if it's any consolation, that happened.

[(Anonymous)]

i remember when the show used that as the justification for the sequence... and that some of the more ardent fans were trying to paint BUFFY as the aggressor in that scene, particularly after a season of, as they put it, "conditioning him to not accept that no means no"

at which point the show was basically lost

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, that interpretation (that it was her doing) seemed like a reach. But actually not ... an incredible one, considering the other scene where he told her about his past and she crumpled up a bunch of money and threw it on the ground in front of him in payment and left, and the camera just watched as he picked up bills and cried, because he'd been hoping she would see him as a person with human feelings, for a change.

Buffy often had the upper hand with Spike, after he fell in love with her. Going and trying to get his soul back, on her account, seemed crazy to me.

[(Anonymous)]

i've probably said it before here, but i'll happily say it again - i don't care what the writers say, i simply do not believe or accept that spike went to get his soul back; they can say what they want but what they put up on the screen was not that ("bitch is gonna see a change", etc)

(that's ignoring the fact that spike getting his soul back simply doesn't make sense from a storytelling standpoint either)

[(Anonymous)]

100% agreed. My reading was always that it was a "careful what you wish for" situation.

[(Anonymous)]

Well, I'm glad you said it again, because I hadn't heard it. If you feel like saying what you would have preferred to see, instead, I'd be interested, because I found that a rather depressing plot development.

[(Anonymous)]

spike getting his chip out as he wanted and becoming the big bad of season 7

then getting staked in the finale because something about killing off the attempted rapist might actually stand up as a female empowerment message, rather than rewarding him with a fucking heroic sacrifice and getting to be the one who saved the world (god that was awful)