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[ SECRET POST #5967 ]
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(Anonymous) 2023-05-08 11:23 pm (UTC)(link)Where is all this Spike slander you speak of? Because it doesn't even have a tag on TikTok. And it sure as shit isn't something found on reddit, Tumblr, or anywhere else.
You know what tag does exist? Xanderslander. Do you know where it's possible to have a civil half decent conversation about Buffy the Vampire Slayer that doesn't devolve into a manic diatribe about how awful Xander is? You do? Can you tell me where it is? Because I can't find such a mythical place anywhere.
Get the fuck outta here with that 'Leave Spike Alone!' nonsense. Call me when Spike receives even a fraction of the bashing Xander gets. I expect you to call me never.
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(Anonymous) 2023-05-08 11:30 pm (UTC)(link)Anyway, I think Spike and Xander should kiss, that's where I'm at.
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(Anonymous) 2023-05-09 12:09 am (UTC)(link)because fuck spike and fuck anybody who thinks he's a decent character; he was GREAT for about three episodes, stories like school hard and lovers walk and the harsh light of day where he rolls in, FUCKS UP EVERYTHING and rolls on out again
but as soon as they turned him into a main character he became a total mess, written inconsistently from one week to the next (he went from "you glow" to "you're addicted to the misery" in less than fifteen minutes of screen time), and then he became a literal (attempted) rapist
and then s7 degenerated into being all about him, with buffy herself degenerating into complete dependency on him, to the extent where the glorious feminist finale is undercut by the world being saved by a rapist's heroic sacrifice. which lasts the entirety of one off-season before he's back on angel
so yeah, fuck spike and fuck people who stan for rapists
there you go, there's some spike slander :)
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Fuck Yeah! Spike 4EVAH!!!!
*twirls you*
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(Anonymous) 2023-05-09 06:24 am (UTC)(link)at which point the show was basically lost
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(Anonymous) 2023-05-09 03:11 am (UTC)(link)I like Spike and Angel, bc fictional problematic bad boys in leather coats are my fucking jam & jelly so...
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(Anonymous) 2023-05-09 07:45 pm (UTC)(link)I can relate, but my mom kind of spoiled my enjoyment of Angel. I brought the Buffy series home one year from university, and watched it with my family, and she liked Spike just fine, but she was scathingly critical of Angel, for being arrogant enough to make choices for himself and Buffy, simply because he was much older and thought he knew what they would both want in the future, based on other relationships he'd had with other people that had fallen apart. That seemed horribly dismissive to her - that instead of treating Buffy like someone unique, he tried to avoid the mistakes he'd made with other people by abandoning her. And when I thought about it, that seemed like a very reasonable criticism to have, but it made it impossible for me to keep taking the premise of "the loving thing to do is move away and never see you again" seriously. Buffy suffered a lot of loneliness because she had a few people above her (Giles, mostly) and below her (the Scoobies) but no one who could really be with her, and Spike had a lot going for him but he also didn't have much of a chance with Buffy because the one she wished she could have, forever, was Angel.
The part at the end where Spike's dying and she tells him she loves him and he goes "no, you don't. But it's nice of you to say" ... he sees her. Because for Buffy, it was and always would be Angel, and Angel's the only one in the series that couldn't see that.
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