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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2023-05-08 05:59 pm

[ SECRET POST #5967 ]


⌈ Secret Post #5967 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2023-05-09 03:11 am (UTC)(link)
I just appreciate that it's clear you've been holding this in since 1999, so go off, OP.

I like Spike and Angel, bc fictional problematic bad boys in leather coats are my fucking jam & jelly so...


(Anonymous) 2023-05-09 07:45 pm (UTC)(link)
DA

I can relate, but my mom kind of spoiled my enjoyment of Angel. I brought the Buffy series home one year from university, and watched it with my family, and she liked Spike just fine, but she was scathingly critical of Angel, for being arrogant enough to make choices for himself and Buffy, simply because he was much older and thought he knew what they would both want in the future, based on other relationships he'd had with other people that had fallen apart. That seemed horribly dismissive to her - that instead of treating Buffy like someone unique, he tried to avoid the mistakes he'd made with other people by abandoning her. And when I thought about it, that seemed like a very reasonable criticism to have, but it made it impossible for me to keep taking the premise of "the loving thing to do is move away and never see you again" seriously. Buffy suffered a lot of loneliness because she had a few people above her (Giles, mostly) and below her (the Scoobies) but no one who could really be with her, and Spike had a lot going for him but he also didn't have much of a chance with Buffy because the one she wished she could have, forever, was Angel.

The part at the end where Spike's dying and she tells him she loves him and he goes "no, you don't. But it's nice of you to say" ... he sees her. Because for Buffy, it was and always would be Angel, and Angel's the only one in the series that couldn't see that.