[ SECRET POST #5967 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #5967 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.


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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

Maaan. You can go on Tumblr and search "anti Spike", it results in anti Spike takes. But also you can continue having rage bonner for all I care

[(Anonymous)]

I can go on Google and search for anti-Spike takes too, but guess what, Maaan? I would have to search for it. It won't randomly pop up on my dash and fyp unbidden the way Xanderslander constantly does.

Not a day has passed when I'm on Tumblr, reddit, TikTok, or Twitter and a video or post that had nothing to do with Xander didn't end up being about hating Xander:

Let's talk about Willow's abuse of magic!
"Yeah, but isn't Xander too possessive of the women in his life?"

Oh! How awful! Spike tried to rape Buffy!
"But what about Xander? He lied about the spell!"

Isn't Dawn annoying?
"Man, can you believe Xander told Dawn about the attempted rape? He should mind his own business!"

This is what it's like all the goddamn time! I have never, ever seen Spike or any other Buffy character get shit on as often and out of pocket as Xander does. It's like people have a physical need to bash Xander anytime Buffy the Vampire Slayer is mentioned. It's a fucking mantra to these people!

It wouldn't piss me off so much if they'd take a fucking day off every once and a while, but no, they literally can't stop!

[(Anonymous)]

So what I'm getting from this is that you like Xander.

[(Anonymous)]

He's alright for the most part.

Willow is who I identified with, I liked computers and learning, and it's unfortunate that happens in schools filled with jerks. Giles is the mentor I wished I had, and Buffy is legit one of my favorite fictional heroes of all time.

Xander was funny and had a weird sense of humor, which I liked, but I didn't like his crush on Buffy. Willow was right there! And I thought the crush was too cliche to be interesting. In fact, it was boring as fuck. Hard pass.

Like I said before, Xander is my least favorite Scooby, and I could vibe with a lot of the complaints some fans had about him... in the beginning. Then as the years passed, and fandom became more divided, the vitriol got worse and worse. Until here we are today, and I can't watch a single goddamn Buffy TikTok without people spending thirty to ninety seconds shitting on Xander over the pettiest of shit. Over and over and over...

I don't bother with r/buffy because I already know day after day someone's going to derail a post that has nothing to do with Xander to shit on Xander. And they won't stop. And the moderators don't do anything when those people attack anyone who defends Xander, because nine times out of ten the mods are anti-Xander too.

I just want it to stop, or at least fucking chill for five fucking minutes. But it won't because these people have made it their mission to let everyone know what a piece of shit misogynist, abusive, incel Xander is. Because OMG! People need to know Xander is shit! Every. Fucking. Day!

Spike will never reach that level of being shat on. No other Buffy character will. Never.

[(Anonymous)]

So you agree that people derailing conversations to bitch about Xander is annoying...

[(Anonymous)]

Xander bashing is worse than Spike bashing, which barely exists in the natural world. It's offensive anyone thinks it's even close or matters. And hey, have a taste of what I have to put up with every single day I participate in Buffy spaces. Isn't it annoying? And I'm just one person. Imagine dozens, if not hundreds doing it constantly. Imagine.

One more time for those in the nosebleeds: Complaining about Spike bashing is bullshit.

[(Anonymous)]

DA

Nah. I would have sympathized with you, if you didn't have this overriding need to claim you had it worse than anyone, and were the most deserving of attention, and bashed a real person who bothered to leave an entirely valid secret to do it. I don't care about what people aim at a fictional character nearly as much as I care what they're willing to say and do to a real person, here.

[(Anonymous)]

+Infinity

[(Anonymous)]

I don't need your fucking sympathy. I'm not here to be sympathetic. I'm here to call out bullshit. And I'm going to be as loud and unyielding as Xander bashers are. I can do this all fucking day.

Also, believing Spike is hated in Buffy fandom in any significant way is BULLSHIT.

[(Anonymous)]

DA

LOL, nicely done, there.

[(Anonymous)]

What you're also saying, though, is that you absolutely know there is Spike-hate. Without the OP having to show you. And you still accused them of lying about it.

[(Anonymous)]

This ^^^^^

[(Anonymous)]

I know Spike has haters; every fucking character you can think of has haters. Grow up. But Xanderslander is a fucking plague.

You think I'm annoying? I'm one person shaking my fist and screaming at the sky. Xander bashers are relentless, and they outnumber Spike haters exponentially. Yet people want to act like Spike is in any way fandom's butt monkey and unfairly misaligned and attacked:

NO, HE IS NOT!

It's a lie, and I'm going to call out that bullshit every. single. time.

[(Anonymous)]

Seriously though, why do you care this much? Yeah, a lot of people dislike Xander and find him an unpleasant character. So what?

[(Anonymous)]

Because this is my glass of wine. This is my therapy. I've had to play nice with Xander bashers for years, and now I have an opportunity to cut loose, so I'm taking it.

If that pisses you off, *SHRUG* get used to it. I had to bite my tongue every time someone went out of their way to bash Xander knowing the majority of fandom are on their side and everyone else had to sit quietly and swallow their constant spew of hateful bile. Not a great feeling, is it?

[(Anonymous)]

DA I just want you to know, I've seen the Xanderslander and it IS exhausting. It IS everywhere, and I'm not as deeply in the fandom as you are. But I do still like Xander--I've just...ignored it, I guess? It's clearly looking back with some kind of lens, and I couldn't be bothered to care.

Your behavior though? Fucking yikes, I might have to try a lens now just to not be on YOUR side.

[(Anonymous)]

Wow. Such an effect I've had on you! Imagine having hundreds of people being as annoyingly persistent about shitting on Xander spreading their hatred every day. Entirely unprompted when you're just minding your business trying to enjoy Buffy fandom. That's what I've put up with for the past few years.

I am not and was never looking for allies. Even if I believed you ever were or intended to be an ally, I don't require your support. Never did. I'm here to shout out the truth for as long and as loudly as I can. And I have no problem doing it alone, thank you very much!

[(Anonymous)]

You didn't "have to do" anything of the sort. You're justifying being too much of a coward to get into an argument in a space where you know you would be outnumbered, and bringing it into our space where you hope most of the commenters will not care enough to tell you that you're being an asshole.

If you're not just an outright troll.

[(Anonymous)]

I'm not outnumbered here? Seriously? The lies never stop it seems.

[(Anonymous)]

Jesus fucking christ. Have a glass of wine and a bath, or something.

[(Anonymous)]

After what else you've said, I have no interest in how many other people allegedly express opinions about a character that bother you, in a space you frequent voluntarily. You've admitted you are attempting to make this one unpleasant for your own benefit.

[(Anonymous)]

I am.

It's soooo cathartic!

And You can ignore me any time it pleases you. No one is forcing you to read my posts and reply. I suspect the reason you keep engaging is because you know I'm right and it irritates you that I won't shut up about it.

And I am right.

[(Anonymous)]

You're dealing with more than one anon, because when someone is unreasonable enough, here, people may decide to play cat and mouse with them for a while. For the entertainment of the rest of the community.

[(Anonymous)]

I think you should stop being in this fandom if it hurts you so much. Read fics in peace or something. Block all the tags if you must. Because you are not being healthy with your hobby right now. I know we are on F!S but this is an old frankly not that good show about teenage vampire killer, it's not life or death situation.

Also I said that you can go to anti Spike tag because you accused people of not providing you with links. I did provide. You are moving goalposts.

[(Anonymous)]

Bullshit.

Xanderslander is in vogue and has been for forever. It's inescapable. I can't even watch the Xander tag on Tumblr in peace, where I have posted fanfic, because I know I'll be hit with constant Xander bashing. And I can't block the Xanderslander tag on TikTok. I have to look for those videos and manually block every creator who makes them. Which means any I miss will randomly show up on my fyp because I searched for Xanderslander videos.

And speaking of writing fanfic. I write fanfic about a lot of characters, including Xander, and I've had reviewers complain about my fic when I update because it forces them to see fic about Xander. What the fuck?

I will not be run out of a fandom I've been in for twenty years. I won't stay silent anymore. I'm here, and I'm going to call out bullshit when I see bullshit!