[ SECRET POST #5967 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #5967 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.


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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 02 pages, 28 secrets from Secret Submission Post #853.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

[(Anonymous)]

NA - You know, I'd agree with you if you'd chill a little and stop being OTT combative about it.

[(Anonymous)]

+1

I actually like Xander, but none of the hate for him ever bothered me. I can actually get a lot of it, even though I still like him anyways. So while I could agree with them that Xander does have more detractors than Spike, I can’t agree with the way they’re acting at all. It’s honestly weird that they’re so angry and combative over this.

Also, they got their answer about a place that has a lot of Spike hate, and they immediately dismissed it just because it’s Twitter? Nah, that’s disingenuous and blatant goalpost moving.

[(Anonymous)]

A fucking lie is not an answer.

[(Anonymous)]

You have literally no basis for calling it a lie.

[(Anonymous)]

I do!

I asked for a link, a post, something, but all they offered was some weak shit: "I don't keep track of every Spike hate post." Which just screams how it's just so easy to find!

While I can guarantee every Buffy fan space not pro-Xander has Xanderslander. Every. Single. Day. Non-stop.

Go on R/reddit right now and I promise there's at least one post bashing Xander and none bashing Spike. Go on. Look.

And there will be a Xander bashing post tomorrow and the next day. And the day after that. And the day after that...

[(Anonymous)]

Even if I wanted to spend the time to go find links to posts I've seen in passing recently, I probably wouldn't link them to someone who sounds so likely to go and scream at the original poster

[(Anonymous)]

I wouldn't scream at them I would fucking block them.

[(Anonymous)]

DA

It does nothing of the sort. I don't care if the OP is referring to years of frustrating conversations that they had with friends in real life and can't "prove" happened even if they wanted to, or just isn't the sort of person who grudge-saves links to posts that make them angry, or simply wants to hang out here instead of trying to find examples elsewhere and link to Spike-hate in the process. I believe them. I've been in fandom long enough to know that the people who gather on different platforms tend to develop fairly different consensus readings about characters and some of them can be punishing. And there've been people yelling about how anyone who didn't turn on Spike after the rape attempt is proving themselves a traitor to woman-kind since the damn episode came out. So, if Buffy's still something people talk about, I really doubt that ever went away.

[(Anonymous)]

+1000

[(Anonymous)]

This!

[tabaqui]

I liked Xander, too, most of the time, but when the writing got so stupid, I mostly was invested in fan-Xander. He was better and more rounded and didn't keep regressing to high school bullshite.

[(Anonymous)]

Yeahhhh, they are pretty unflatteringly aggressive.

[(Anonymous)]

No kidding. I got to the post they started with "bitch" and thought, this does not sound like it has anything to do with Xander. It sounds like a blatant attempt at derailing the conversation the OP started, about Spike.

[(Anonymous)]

It sounds like someone who needs a damn nap

[(Anonymous)]

NAH. I'm done being nice about this shit. DONE.

Buffy the Vampire Slayer was my shit back in the day, and despite the crap Joss pulled on the cast, Charisma Carpenter in particular, I still love Buffy. It got me into fandom.

Xander is my least favorite Scoob, but he's still one of the gang, and the hate he gets is over-the=top and inescapable. I can't watch ninety-nine percent of Buffy TikTok because people will not shut the fuck up about hating Xander. Or hang out on r/buffy without every other post turning into a: Xander sucks! circle-jerk. It's ruining my enjoyment of a fandom I've been a part of for decades.

Now people want to pretend Spike is some super hated Buffy character, when I know for a fact, there are plenty of bubble spaces where Spike is lionized as a flawless sex GOD. Which makes their whining obvious, fucking bullshit, and I. Am. Done.

[(Anonymous)]

Ok.

[(Anonymous)]

You're done? Thank god. Now you can fuck off.

[(Anonymous)]

Never!

[(Anonymous)]

Uh-huh. Data point: this anon is a liar who claims they're shutting up for rhetorical effect, and then comes back to make more of a spectacle of themselves.