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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2023-05-14 05:18 pm

[ SECRET POST #5973 ]


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(Anonymous) 2023-05-14 09:53 pm (UTC)(link)
A bit of both, probably.

I think it's natural that there's going to be diminished quality when you increase the number of movies coming out, spread things more thinly across a greater number of characters, put more of a workload on the production side, etc. And losing Chris Evans and (especially) RDJ hurts as well.

(Anonymous) 2023-05-15 12:56 am (UTC)(link)
+100000

(Anonymous) 2023-05-14 10:37 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah you're right.

I'm kind of fed up with Marvel movies and have been reluctant to see anything with the exception of venom 2 and Deadpool 3 (which I think the latter is coming out next year). There's also just the last few movies I got talked into seeing weren't as good as my friend talked them up to being, so now I'm even more reluctant to see any more for the time being.

It's kind of funny since teen me was a major Marvel fan and was absolutely excited for pretty much every Marvel movie pre-The Avengers 2012, and would have been devastated at the thought of hating Marvel movies.

(Anonymous) 2023-05-14 10:40 pm (UTC)(link)
I technically agree with you (never liked MCU in the first place)

(Anonymous) 2023-05-14 10:48 pm (UTC)(link)
I just love the image choice

(Anonymous) 2023-05-14 11:00 pm (UTC)(link)
Agree to disagree. I find it easier to say which MCU movies were good, than the other way around and I haven't seen anything past Civil War. I think MCU just looks better compared to DCU which was alllll shit.
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[personal profile] meadowphoenix 2023-05-14 11:05 pm (UTC)(link)
hmm, i think it's somewhat that and also when they do do something different, a la eternals, it's "boring".

(Anonymous) 2023-05-15 01:10 am (UTC)(link)
Re: the fans thinking Eternals were boring, I think there's also the element that Marvel isn't brave to push through the initial backlash and 'who?' criticisms like they did with the first few Marvel movies to fully integrate those characters into the universe. We've heard nothing about the events of the Eternals or the characters in the many, many instalments since then, and that's down to choices by Marvel itself. Which is stupid, because post credits scenes in other movies with existing characters like those would bring hype and excitement back to the franchise.
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[personal profile] meadowphoenix 2023-05-16 08:37 pm (UTC)(link)
yeah, just like inhumans they dropped it, and lbr it's because they got x-men.

(Anonymous) 2023-05-15 03:37 am (UTC)(link)
Eternals was boring though! And it was from boring source material, and didn't have the most interesting parts of Marvel worldbuilding.
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[personal profile] meadowphoenix 2023-05-16 08:36 pm (UTC)(link)
I didn't think it was boring, but i also think that for something like eternals you need some lead up. you can't do an iron man when you had so many movies where they should be relevant. x-men is going to be interesting.

(Anonymous) 2023-05-15 07:05 am (UTC)(link)
To be fair they did take a big swing with the first GOTG movie and knocked it out of the park. But yeah their success rate has been lower since then.
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[personal profile] meadowphoenix 2023-05-16 08:33 pm (UTC)(link)
I get what you mean, but I feel it wasn't exactly a big swing? it felt like the same exact swing as iron man...except they already knew iron man worked.

(Anonymous) 2023-05-15 09:58 am (UTC)(link)
Eternals suffered because they chose the boring characters as the lead, and were too meta with the jokes. Ikarus oughta have been the hero and there oughta have been less Superman jokes. They had a golden opportunity one-up DC in that movie, and they fumbled it by being too like DC in all the wrong ways.

(Anonymous) 2023-05-15 12:29 pm (UTC)(link)
Hard disagree on Ikarus being the hero. He was the most annoying, and I was glad he was the villain.

(Anonymous) 2023-05-15 01:13 am (UTC)(link)
Ehh, I definitely have superhero fatigue, no doubt about that. But I also definitely think the MCU's well of inspiration seems to be running pretty dry lately.

I mean, I was already well into my superhero fatigue era when The Batman came out last year, plus I've barely liked a single DC movie that's come out in the past decade, so when I say I was prepared to think The Batman was crap, I mean I went into it already inclined to think it was crap. But much to my surprise, The Batman ended up one of my top five superhero movies of all time. It was just a really good movie, IMO; the idea of superhero fatigue felt irrelevant the moment the movie got its hooks in me.

(Anonymous) 2023-05-15 09:59 am (UTC)(link)
And this was DC's strategy all along. They couldn't make good superhero movies, but they knew if they kept on pumping out duds then they'd eventually give all the suckers out there superhero fatigue and kill marvel by genre association. It seems to have worked.

(Anonymous) 2023-05-15 01:08 pm (UTC)(link)
DA

You give them waaaay too much credit.

(Anonymous) 2023-05-15 05:28 pm (UTC)(link)
Nah.

(Anonymous) 2023-05-15 06:42 pm (UTC)(link)
Yah.

(Anonymous) 2023-05-15 07:09 pm (UTC)(link)
This is a really weird argument, not least because all of DC's superhero movies have been wildly tonally different from MCU movies. Usually for the worse - but certainly different.