[ SECRET POST #5980 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #5980 ⌋

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[(Anonymous)]

Is there a chance that people are just taking a shortcut because "haitang" is shorter?

[(Anonymous)]

It's probably because the word 'crab' gives it a negative connotation.
Or because the word is shorter, like another commenter said.

[(Anonymous)]

Someone should make a clasped arm meme with "crabapple blossom/haitang" on one arm and "cherry blossom/sakura" on the other.

[(Anonymous)]

And in both cases, the names refer to a specific species of crabapple and cherry tree that look a particular way because they're primarily cultivated as ornamental species.

[(Anonymous)]

What's wrong with loan words?

[(Anonymous)]

This. And also, I suspect the connotations of the word are radically different. "Crabapples" to most people who speak English and don't have one, are like defective fruit trees. They're the opposite of romantic or poetic or anything they story is likely to be trying to do by including them in the first place. Calling them something that doesn't automatically tie in with all those negative western associations is a valid creative choice. I mean, yes, if you're writing a long enough story, you can try to push the boulder up the mountain with your forehead and re-write some of people's associations with the strength of what it means in your story, but it's a hell of a lot easier if people make good associations with a word they don't know, and then tie the ends together if they want to by going "huh. This beautiful tree is actually also a kind of crabapple."

[(Anonymous)]

"Defective fruit tree that's pretty" does describe the character in the novel pretty well though lol.

[(Anonymous)]

Afaik, haitang is a particular crabapple species, often especially cultivated as an ornamental version so idk, to me it makes sense. You also order wasabi at a sushi place and not (Japanese) horseradish. Or quinoa and not amaranth.

[(Anonymous)]

And likewise, how "cherry blossoms" and "yaezakura" are not the same thing.

[(Anonymous)]

... Could it be that 'haitang' has elegant connotations where 'crabapple' does not and, in the base story, the flower is supposed to have elegant connotations? It's translating for tone, not just meaning.

[(Anonymous)]

... I have lived in the US for almost 40 years and never once in my life have I EVER heard the phrase "crabapple blossom" used here, so I'm not sure what point you're trying to make. It's not like it's a commonly-used term.

[(Anonymous)]

I'm from the UK and I have heard it, but it's not the same kind of blossom as haitang, which has been cultivated especially for the blossom.

[(Anonymous)]

Same here. I know what crabapples are, so I guess I should have gathered that crabapple blossoms exist, but I've never heard them talked about and if I've ever seen one I didn't know what it was.

[(Anonymous)]

When I first read 2HA I googled haitang because I wasn’t sure what it was. Crabapple was not familiar to me either. If I have to pick I’m going with haitang. It sounds prettier.

[(Anonymous)]

I first read that as "Crappable blossom" and was very, very confused for a moment

[(Anonymous)]

I just want to say I love crabapple trees (they're among my favorite scents!) And I like that there's a secret with pretty art featuring this tree's flower (even if it's a specific variety, it seems, according to the comments)