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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2023-05-23 06:16 pm

[ SECRET POST #5982 ]


⌈ Secret Post #5982 ⌋

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[personal profile] meadowphoenix 2023-05-24 05:57 am (UTC)(link)
I define anti-hero from a literary perspective. a hero has a morality that is justified in the meta-text of the novel, and has a goal that valuable, as judged by the meta-text. by meta-text I mean that looking critically at the text, you would get the impression that the morality of the hero is consistent with the morality advanced by the text and the goal is advanced as worthy for the text. this is to deal with unreliable narrators and settings in which most people are shitty. sometimes the hero is doing something that the meta-text is saying was correct, but is getting a lot of flack both internal to themselves and external from other characters. I would still consider that person a hero, not an anti-hero.

an anti-hero has the goal like a hero, but the morality is not justified by the meta-text or vice versa (but i don't think i've ever seen vice-versa).

but i also don't think all texts are actually dealing with heroes/villains (aka the meta-text is not actually trying to advance a morality, even if it does seem to have a point of view) and a lot of people try to pin "anti-hero" to the protagonists of those texts...you really don't have to. Not every significant character needs to be categorized.

(Anonymous) 2023-05-24 07:53 pm (UTC)(link)
I mostly agree with this

Except I think any narrative is advancing a point of view morally whether or not it intends to
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[personal profile] meadowphoenix 2023-05-24 08:56 pm (UTC)(link)
I agree that every narrative has a point of view, i don't agree that it's always advancing that as a value system. You see this a lot with character studies. The text is simply explorative, and imposing a hero/anti-hero analysis gains you very little.

(Anonymous) 2023-05-25 04:58 pm (UTC)(link)
So much this!