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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2023-05-28 04:42 pm

[ SECRET POST #5987 ]


⌈ Secret Post #5987 ⌋

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Re: Men who don't fucking listen.

(Anonymous) 2023-05-29 06:13 pm (UTC)(link)
Same. I figure the people who read OP's vent and thought oh, it must be partly her fault because this isn't a gender issue!! are either very young, or very naive. Maybe they haven't had to live with many men on a long term basis where they're the primary caretaker and not, for example, their mother. This is totally a gender issue. Sure, lots of women also don't listen. But there's a degree of cultural toxicity surrounding male vs. female gender roles when it comes to personal relationships that's so deeply ingrained it's not always obvious and internalized misogyny/sexism is a thing.

One of my best friends is married to a guy with an advanced degree in STEM who has a professional job. He's fully capable of doing many complicated things. He doesn't do laundry because he shrinks stuff, mangles stuff, mixes colors and dyes the whites, etc. Laundry isn't rocket science and nobody is born knowing how to do it. If he cared to learn how to do it properly, he could. But stuff like this is not at all uncommon and it gets frequently excused when men somehow can't figure out basic household chores.

Do you know who gives my friend a hard time about this? Her mother in law. Because according to her MIL, her precious son shouldn't have to do women's work and if my friend doesn't look after two young kids on her own, do all the cooking, cleaning, shopping and laundry herself perfectly, she's a bad wife. MIL did all of this for her family, her husband and sons never had to raise a finger to help and that's how she believes it ought to be for the next generation. Internalized sexism right there, and this is how the cycle is perpetuated.

Re: Men who don't fucking listen.

(Anonymous) 2023-05-29 08:27 pm (UTC)(link)
^^^^^^

All of this!