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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2009-06-09 04:27 pm

[ SECRET POST #886 ]


⌈ Secret Post #886 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[MasterChef Australia]


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[Watchmen, Sublime]


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[D.Gray-man]


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[Midori Days]


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[The Wire]


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[Utena]


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[The Chosen]


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[17 Again]


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[Umineko no Naku Koro ni]


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[Neil Patrick Harris]


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[Atsushi Sakurai]


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[Skins]


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[History Boys]


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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 11 pages, 252 secrets from Secret Submission Post #127.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 1 2 - broken links ], [ 1 2 - not!secrets ], [ 1 - not!fandom ], [ 1 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ], [ 1 - doing it wrong ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

[identity profile] fscom.livejournal.com 2009-06-09 08:48 pm (UTC)(link)
109. http://www.anyprevious.com/stuff/wiresecret.jpg
[The Wire]

[identity profile] heather.livejournal.com 2009-06-09 09:10 pm (UTC)(link)
That's a shame. The Wire is an amazing show and deserves a fandom and plenty of fic.

I also think it's a shame that you think it's too much trouble to try to research and write characters as well as you can, no matter what color they are, just because you're afraid of making mistakes and/or having them pointed out to you. You should try and do your best, if the characters speak to you, same as with any writing you do.
Edited 2009-06-09 21:12 (UTC)

[identity profile] flirflir.livejournal.com 2009-06-09 09:47 pm (UTC)(link)
iawtc

(Anonymous) 2009-06-10 09:05 pm (UTC)(link)
...I must admit, I didn't think OP meant that they weren't willing to do the research, or that they were afraid of making mistakes, but that they were afraid of the fact that a lot of nasty people in Racefail essentially said that NO white person could EVER understand a black person's perspective EVER EVER EVER because the world they lived in was not institutionally racist against them - and that OP believed them.

Which I can sympathise with, really; I write black characters in my fandoms - and I always put effort and work into getting into their minds - but I've started writing them less and worrying more about it because I value accuracy and, well, if I can never understand no matter what...then what's the point? I want to do it right. *perfectionist*

Of course, I could be misreading OP entirely. -_-;;

[identity profile] jlh.livejournal.com 2009-06-09 09:16 pm (UTC)(link)
Ditto. Also because if you don't slash them, maybe no one else will—there's a huge dearth of black men being slashed, and it's a damn shame!

[identity profile] emerald-embers.livejournal.com 2009-06-09 10:56 pm (UTC)(link)
there's a huge dearth of black men being slashed, and it's a damn shame!

YES. I was gutted by the lack of Uriel & Castiel fic in Supernatural because I honestly thought their bickering was adorable and would have loved to see more of it. It bugs me to no end that there're more Alastair and Castiel requests on the kink memes and such despite them having maybe five minutes screen time together in total than there are for Uriel and Castiel who've been in the same boat for centuries as far as we know :X.

[identity profile] shadowpoet89.livejournal.com 2009-06-10 05:31 pm (UTC)(link)
YES, THIS. God, it makes no fucking sense at all. Wtf, SPN fandom. Makes me want to tear my hair out, Jesus. I'm not even gonna get started on that, it bugs me so much.

[identity profile] emerald-embers.livejournal.com 2009-06-10 07:17 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes yes and yes >_<. I mean, when I first wrote a fic for them, I thought "Hee, maybe this'll get the ball rolling", and... no. And then I wrote another fic for them and thought "And maybe now?", and... no. And then I wrote v. dubious consent porn and thought "Okay, well, this isn't my usual fluff, so maybe now?" and... no.

And then I realised I'd written probably 1/3 to 1/2 of all the Uriel/Castiel fic out there, and I sighed deeply for the fandom.

Where are my goddamned prompts for Uriel/Castiel, SPN kink meme?!

[identity profile] holidaylights.livejournal.com 2009-06-09 09:18 pm (UTC)(link)
Wait, is there a Wire fandom I've been missing? If so, where? I'm just in the middle of the first season, but I'm already completely hooked, and it doesn't get nearly enough love.

[identity profile] annwyd.livejournal.com 2009-06-09 09:28 pm (UTC)(link)
Do it anyway, anon. Even before Racefail I was terrified of fucking up and revealing my stupid privileged racist fail while RPing Omar, but I really loved the character so I did it anyway. People who had never known the show existed liked him.

Listen to the actors' commentary; read about the research the creators of the show did; research a bit on Baltimore and its projects; then go and write.

[identity profile] ali-wildgoose.livejournal.com 2009-06-09 09:50 pm (UTC)(link)
Omar is the motherfucking MAN.

[identity profile] annwyd.livejournal.com 2009-06-09 09:50 pm (UTC)(link)
I had no idea you knew the Wire, but yes, yes he is.

[identity profile] ali-wildgoose.livejournal.com 2009-06-09 09:52 pm (UTC)(link)
I just finished watching the first season and I'm about to start the second!

Let's just say there was some pretty epic hearting on my part.

[identity profile] annwyd.livejournal.com 2009-06-09 09:55 pm (UTC)(link)
Aw yeah. That is pretty much how it was for me too.

(I know some people who've dropped it in the second season, because it does slow down a bit, but it's absolutely worth it--and then after all that, IMO the third and fourth seasons are the show's best.)

[identity profile] pwnmastersaurus.livejournal.com 2009-06-10 11:07 pm (UTC)(link)
Whaaat? Who dropped it in the second season? I'm halfway through that one and it's fucking AWESOME.

[identity profile] ali-wildgoose.livejournal.com 2009-06-09 09:49 pm (UTC)(link)
DUDE! GO WRITE IT!

If you want to take a lesson away from Race!Fail, then take the suggestion that you do some research first and maybe run your fic by someone else before you post it who you trust to point out problems. And then if someone leaves a review that has some criticism, don't be overly defensive about it.

That really is it. <3
Edited 2009-06-09 21:51 (UTC)

[identity profile] andromeda-2.livejournal.com 2009-06-09 10:58 pm (UTC)(link)
I've never watched the Wire, but agreeing about being scared of fucking up when writing black characters(or any poc characters for that matter). Except I've been that scared about writing it even before Race!Fail...

And, on a slightly unrelated note, that guy with glasses is very handsome :)

[identity profile] rabbitucker.livejournal.com 2009-06-10 01:07 am (UTC)(link)
Here's what you do:

1.) Treat the characters as you would any other. They are human beings with their own worldviews, dialects, and likely reactions to different situations. Go with the extablished cannon to get the essence of each character.

2.) Create a pseudonym. Write the fic under that pseudonym.

3.) Post the 'fic.

4.) Relax as a non-existant person recieves all the hate-mail for the characters being written "too black" and/or "not black enough." (Possibly both at the same time.)

[identity profile] shadowpoet89.livejournal.com 2009-06-10 06:13 pm (UTC)(link)
Lol, I really don't see anyone honestly leaving a review saying that "this character isn't black enough."
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[identity profile] azdaja-dafema.livejournal.com 2009-06-10 02:46 am (UTC)(link)
Another voice in the crowd, but research and then write. I'd be dying to read some Wire fic.

[identity profile] gershwhen.livejournal.com 2009-06-10 02:47 am (UTC)(link)
I don't blame you OP. But you have the option of writing it, having a great time writing it, enjoying the story and NOT POSTING. Entertain yourself, you are worth it!

[identity profile] shadowpoet89.livejournal.com 2009-06-10 05:39 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't know, I kind of don't get it. People can write vampires and aliens but balk at trying to get into the head of an actual black person? I understand that there's that element of fear at offending actual people, but. Dude. Just write the damn thing. Seriously. It's good that you want to do it right but that starts by trying.

[identity profile] pwnmastersaurus.livejournal.com 2009-06-10 11:06 pm (UTC)(link)
Sometimes I cry myself to sleep because there is no Stringer/Avon slash to be found on the Internet.

Okay, that's clearly an exaggeration. BUT STILL.