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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2023-06-06 06:49 pm

[ SECRET POST #5996 ]


⌈ Secret Post #5996 ⌋

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[personal profile] fscom 2023-06-06 10:56 pm (UTC)(link)
04. https://i.imgur.com/4SUjiWM.png
[Eurovision 2023]

(Anonymous) 2023-06-06 11:53 pm (UTC)(link)
Same! I am definitely not a conspiracy person....but I guess I am now because this seems too real.
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[personal profile] kaishi 2023-06-06 11:56 pm (UTC)(link)
I know nothing about Eurovision, but that outfit is hideous.

(Anonymous) 2023-06-07 12:35 am (UTC)(link)
It's bizarre, because Loreen is very attractive! But that outfit is not only hideous in itself, it somehow makes her look terrible.

(Anonymous) 2023-06-07 05:52 am (UTC)(link)
It's Early 90s scifi exotic.

(Anonymous) 2023-06-07 08:09 am (UTC)(link)
Hideous outfits are a staple of Eurovision. You should google Barbara Dex Award.

(Anonymous) 2023-06-07 11:04 am (UTC)(link)
It worked during the performance, but not in any other situation.

(Anonymous) 2023-06-06 11:58 pm (UTC)(link)
Insofar as conspiracy theories go a rigged competition is hardly that far out, hell most competition TV shows are rigged in some manner they just edit it to make it seem like there is more than one contestant who can win.

So unless this theory is really wacky and out there it wouldn't seem overly implausible to me?

I'm into it!

(Anonymous) 2023-06-07 12:21 am (UTC)(link)
I'm definitely a conspiracy person from time to time, so please do spill!

(Anonymous) 2023-06-07 12:33 am (UTC)(link)
The "conspiracy" is juries. That's it. An easy way of controlling the vote. Numerically, Finland couldn't catch Sweden after that. I did enjoy that short era when it was all wild and free voting.

(Anonymous) 2023-06-07 01:27 am (UTC)(link)
sure they could have caught them, they just didn't

the all televote era was absolute trash

(Anonymous) 2023-06-07 03:19 am (UTC)(link)
It was trash, but I enjoyed the trash so much!

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(Anonymous) 2023-06-07 12:50 am (UTC)(link)
That outfit looks like a set of pyjamas and some lacy underwear got together and produced offspring...

(Anonymous) 2023-06-07 01:37 am (UTC)(link)
Rigged by whom?

It's well known that 5 countries more or less own Eurovision. Yet none of those countries have a fantastic winning record - if anyone would be able to rig Eurovision, they would. But why for Sweden?

Or did Sweden call every judge and bribe them? That doesn't seem very pausible. ABBA themselves seemed shocked by the news, and denied that they would appear next year, so I don't even see that strong of a motive. Judges just liked Sweden.

(Anonymous) 2023-06-07 01:40 am (UTC)(link)
The theory I've seen is that they think that doing it as an ABBA anniversary thing next year will be profitable somehow.

(Anonymous) 2023-06-07 03:34 am (UTC)(link)
Honestly, I don't think they had to bribe anyone. I think they just basically had to lead with "you know it's ABBA's 50th anniversary next year, wouldn't it be amazing for Eurovision if Sweden won?" I think they individually just chose Sweden: because the song was good, even if not "best," and it wasn't a hardship to choose it for the delayed gratification spectacle of it all.

(Anonymous) 2023-06-07 03:40 am (UTC)(link)
If that were the case, wouldn't have been better to make ABBA to represent Sweden or make Swedish artist play a cover than... that?

ABBA is an amazing group and all, but I doubt they would have let anybody use their name for bribe Eurovision.

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(Anonymous) 2023-06-07 04:37 am (UTC)(link)
My theory is that it wasn't so much rigged as it was a sum of many individual factors. There's nothing wrong with Tattoo, but it's not on the level of Euphoria. And yet, the juries voted like it was the best song they'd ever heard; it got the highest percentage of the maximum available jury points in Eurovision history.

What I believe happened is that on top of the business-as-usual Sweden favoritism, the juries were just as aware as anyone else that Cha Cha Cha was poised to sweep the televote, so the individual jury members voted strongly in favor of Tattoo to the detriment of other equally decent pop songs. Just like the televoters, without any particular conspiracy, voted overwhelmingly in favor of Cha Cha Cha, to the detriment of other predicted audience favourites.

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(Anonymous) 2023-06-07 04:09 am (UTC)(link)
Anyway. Fuck juries.

(Anonymous) 2023-06-07 05:49 am (UTC)(link)
Same. They wanted Sweden to host next year's competition because of ABBA, and also to get a female winner who's won twice since there's a male double winner already.

(Anonymous) 2023-06-07 07:50 am (UTC)(link)
After UK finally had a shot at a win and lost to the pity votes for Ukraine (who should have got a participation only entry since they couldn't host) I had zero interest in Eurovision this year.

(Anonymous) 2023-06-07 09:48 am (UTC)(link)
UK still got to host this year, though, and everyone knows Ukraine got sympathy votes, which was kind of inevitable (although personally I also quite like their song). So for all intents and purposes, the UK won 2022.

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[personal profile] dantesspirit 2023-06-07 03:46 pm (UTC)(link)
I just wish they'd air Eurovision in the US. We miss all the goofy fun.

(Anonymous) 2023-06-07 06:48 pm (UTC)(link)
It's always streamed live on YouTube

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(Anonymous) 2023-06-07 07:36 pm (UTC)(link)
It's streamed, my man.

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