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⌈ Secret Post #5998 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

I kind of get it. When you grow up with media of a certain era, it feels easier to connect with it, even despite any flaws it may carry.

[(Anonymous)]

I strongly disagree with this - I love SF and I love female characters and I love queer characters and I love weird aliens. The menu has definitely got better and better over time.

Op

[(Anonymous)]

Oh I agree its definitely a lot better than it used to be.

As a kid discovering that I was queer in the early 2000s, it sure was an experience in terms of just finding media that I liked.
I'm pretty sure that's why I fell as hard as I did into fan fiction at that time - there were a LOT of gay fanfics in the anime fandom's that I was into back then (like naruto, YGO, Digimon, etc). And the stories were either defaulted in a world where being gay was 'normal' (context of the time; my country the UK had just got rid of section 28, but the homophobic attitudes were sure as hell still around) - or they did deal with homophobia, but had a support network.

Then there was making the most of the bread crumbs of the time, even when they could be wildly stereotypical or any kind of problematic - even the mere existence of those stories/characters got backlash from the people who hated queer folks the most, so I could see why I embraced a lot of it back then as a 'fuck you' to the homophobic assholes of the day.

Then there was the novelty of discovering yaoi and Yuri - not knowing anything about the problems of fetishization nor the severe homophobia in Japan at the time, but getting to enjoy the gay equivalent of trashy gay romances that straight people got to have at any given moment (NGL I still have a soft spot for them because I enjoy the emotional drama).

I could go on, but yes new queer media is nice. I am glad that people are getting better media now.
But I guess maybe I sometimes get nostalgic for those times, as bad as they were. There's also something about the queer media that was available then that I loved - where they were allowed to be messy and imperfect. With newer queer media, a lot of it is squeaky clean and has to be in the moral good or else 'its evil/bad/corruptive etc' while straight media can get away with so much more.
Eh, there's no such thing as perfect and I definitely don't want to go back in time for it - I just like that I have the choice to discover more media that I had missed/wasn't available at that time, in addition to having the option to enjoy the new stuff too.

[(Anonymous)]

AYRT

Yes, I agree! I love all the new stuff for all that, especially more female leads I relate to, etc. Didn't mean to imply it was better, it wasn't, I just have a higher tolerance for stuff I grew up with and other media at the time that may lack it, and still feel myself connecting strongly with them, again, despite their flaws.

Op

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah I feel this. Like the 2000s was the era I really got into media while getting into online spaces around the same time like fan forums and LJ where I could talk to people about these things in said media (and would point out the flaws too without turning into some weird moral thing where Everything Problematic and Uncomfy = EVIL).
It is interesting to hear modern takes on 2000s media (or anime in my case) - its an era I just remember growing up in and although my opinions have change as I get older, I still can understand a bit more of it having been there at the time (also nostalgia is a factor but yeah).