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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2023-06-09 05:42 pm

[ SECRET POST #5999 ]


⌈ Secret Post #5999 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2023-06-10 01:48 am (UTC)(link)
Childhood food security wasn't doing so great either. And kids who were already socioeconomically disadvantaged took several more hits due to the loss of onsite resources provided by schools and libraries and lack of reliable internet at home.

(Anonymous) 2023-06-10 05:29 am (UTC)(link)
AYRT

I find it interesting that people (who can mostly afford to feed their children?) default reflexively to arguing that if other people's children don't have food to eat because the schools are closed, that automatically justifies all the other harm that school does, and the only answer possible is to immediately reopen them.

(Anonymous) 2023-06-10 10:36 am (UTC)(link)
Nayrt

But by that same token, it’s interesting that just because some kids have it worse at school than at home, that automatically ignores all the good schools can do, and all justifies the harm that keeping every kid out of school can do for the ones with bad home lives. And so your answer would seem to be to keep schools closed indefinitely just for the kids who have terrible school lives, as opposed to opening schools up immediately for the kids who have horrible home lives. I’m just saying, a lot of the criticism you’re aiming at others can be applied to your arguments too. It’s fine to care more about the harm school can cause, but that doesn’t mean it’s more or less important than the kids who have horrible home lives and benefit from school being a safer place for them with helpful resources. Both are valid viewpoints, so I’m not saying you’re wrong at all, it’s just a bit more nuanced than that.

An anyways, it wasn’t really the kids with bad home lives, or disadvantaged families that started the push to open schools back up immediately. That was more of a government push, as well as a parent group/school board thing, with a side of corporate interference. Everyone who had a stake in schools being open was pushing for them to reopen before it was even remotely safe, but it wasn’t the disadvantaged that had that kind of pull.

(Anonymous) 2023-06-11 06:51 am (UTC)(link)
AYRT

First the anon I responded to cited the plight of children whose parents' wages are far enough below the poverty line that they can't afford to feed them, as if schools were the only way to provide one hot meal per day to hungry children. Then you shifted the issue to kids whose home life is traumatic. Neither of these actually makes a case for schools being *better* than anything that could be described as not-neglect and not-abuse? And none of this addresses the realities of many children whose home life is not unbearable, while their school situation is.

I think our best bet at making school less abusive involves making it voluntary. Kids who learn well there could keep going. But kids who do better when they're not forced to attend school could leave without breaking the law. And that might well pressure the system to serve a lot of people it currently mistreats and brushes off, in the hope of winning them back.

I'd say everything you observed about school reopenings being motivated by politics and economics, as opposed to concern for marginalized kids, was on target, though.

(Anonymous) 2023-06-11 08:50 pm (UTC)(link)
Frankly, there are a lot of reasons besides "literally can't afford food" that children benefit from school meal programs, and also there are thousands of children who get more than one meal a day through those programs. There are also thousands of children who benefit from access to climate control, libraries, reliable internet service, and yes, adults who are not their parents or relatives or church members. Frankly, the fact that you think that none of these things are as important as the fact that you hated school so much that you'd rather everyone keep their kids at home and think that's what's best for most children has a lot more to do with your personal issues than politics, early childhood education, or reality.

(Anonymous) 2023-06-10 04:53 pm (UTC)(link)
Kids without reliable internet at home were suffering before the pandemic. For some of them the pandemic meant an end to this bit of suffering.