[ SECRET POST #6001 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #6001 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.


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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 02 pages, 38 secrets from Secret Submission Post #858.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

[fscom]

05. https://i.imgur.com/dbiCvR1.png

[(Anonymous)]

There’s a middle ground here for me, in that yes: it shouldn’t be assumed by creators that what they make it gold and everyone is going to lap what they create up, people can and will dislike story elements, etc.

But on the other hand I have seen how godawful and entitled fans have gotten in that last 10 years in regards to shows/movies not doing what they personally want that I don’t think creators should be beholden to bratty fans who want their own way.

Honestly I just want that fourth wall back, but its way too late for that. :/

[(Anonymous)]

+1000

[(Anonymous)]

Eh, this one can go both ways. Fans should be flexible about stuff - there are times where fandom absolutely has its head up its ass and gets mad at the canon for not playing out exactly the way fandom wanted it to, even though what actually showed up is perfectly good. And there are some times where the creators have their heads up their ass, and sometimes everyones' heads are up their asses.

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, there are those creators that complain that the audience didn't like it because they didn't get it. Like, no. We got it just fine, it just sucked.

Then you have those fans that tell creators/actors/writers to go kill themselves.

Swings and roundabouts, ain't it?

[(Anonymous)]

I can think of some specific creators for this. Yeah fans should be flexible as well, but getting all upset with fans and then purposely changing plots to upset or tease them or whatever is ridiculous.

[(Anonymous)]

I'd love to know who this is directed at.

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah - I have my guesses but it really could be anything.

[(Anonymous)]

I can think of several just off the top of my head. Curious if it's one instance or just OP got sick of it happening again and again.

[(Anonymous)]

My guess is Barry. I'm glad to hear that making the show and everyone involved in the process said it was the best working experience they ever had in the industry, but a lot of the content they put out in the second half...eesh.

[(Anonymous)]

????

I don't watch but I haven't really heard about any mass fandom backlash or anything

[deleted_scenes]

To be honest this secret feels like it was made by the one person who believed the marketing for something like The All Lady Ghostbusters movie when they said it failed because of "The trolls".

Nah man, you made a terrible underwritten ad-lib movie with fart humour and bad CGI that nobody asked for.

[(Anonymous)]

That description applies to like all of Paul Feig's movies and a bunch of them were massive hits so clearly *someone* wants that kind of movie even if it isn't me

(also tbh very weird to still be mad about the fucking 2016 Ghostbusters)

[(Anonymous)]

+ 1,000

[(Anonymous)]

Could be they just woke up from a 7-year coma.

[(Anonymous)]

I loved that movie.

[(Anonymous)]

I thought it was fun!

[(Anonymous)]

I enjoyed it a lot, and thought it was lots of fun!

[(Anonymous)]

Well, there are cases where some fans are very vocal but do not comprise the entire viewing public or their opinions, and those fans need to get over it.

On the other hand the Supernatural finale sucked and so did the last season of GoT.

Hmm.

[(Anonymous)]

Yes, fans are allowed to have expectations and be disappointed when they are aren't met, and yes, sometimes producers somehow completely miss what fans want, even with ample evidence pointing to what they want (forums, fan campaigns, popularity of previous media, complaints about previous media, etc.). Yeah, sometimes someone has a 'vision', and it doesn't really matter to them what anyone else thinks (until they are done and want other people to appreciate that 'vision'). But I would say that many producers actually are, in fact, trying to make something that many fans like, whether they hit the mark or not.

And then there are the cases where they give the fans what they say they want, but the fans don't really respond (this can be legit, like when the execution is very poor, or it can be kind of spurious, like when the casting is ridiculed for shallow reasons). Or, on the other side, when someone seems to want to punish the fans for liking something other than what the producers wanted to them to like (by, say, killing off a fan favorite character rather than the creator favored main character that a lot of fans have come to dislike - just a general example, in no way referring to any specific instance).

[meadowphoenix]

I do think an audience can be unfair, like I think the audience that didn't like the Rite of Spring or the Four Seasons when they first came out and had a fit were being unfair. I don't think expectations excuse a lack of openness.

but some people are clearly trying to trope out the tropiest shit for the audience, i.e. they write based on audience engagement in the familiar, and yeah....I don't know what you expected.