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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2023-06-13 06:27 pm

[ SECRET POST #6003 ]


⌈ Secret Post #6003 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2023-06-13 11:04 pm (UTC)(link)
they broke up

(Anonymous) 2023-06-13 11:24 pm (UTC)(link)
Life comes at you pretty fast...

(Anonymous) 2023-06-14 01:45 am (UTC)(link)
OP.

Lol yeah, when they broke up before my secret was posted...well damn. But he's still touring with her, right?

(Anonymous) 2023-06-14 02:14 am (UTC)(link)
But he's still touring with her, right?

NAYRT - He never was. He performed with Phoebe Bridgers during her opening act for two shows. Pretty sure it was just the two times.

(Anonymous) 2023-06-13 11:30 pm (UTC)(link)
I mean, it actually was pretty cool of her to notice a security person needlessly hassling someone in the audience, and then actually call them out and tell them to stop and leave that audience member alone, in the middle of a song, without missing a beat. In the middle of a three hour endurance-test of a concert, no less.

It is, at the absolute least, just as deserving of notice as the fact that she was allegedly dating a problematic asshat.

(Anonymous) 2023-06-14 12:53 am (UTC)(link)
Thank you, Taylor, for not ignoring that someone who paid exorbitant sums of money to stand in your presence for three hours was being abused by someone being paid on your behalf to hassle people. You've done the bare minimum that would be expected of a human being in your position. That's at least as worthy of attention as being totally cool with racism when the guy is hot.

(Anonymous) 2023-06-14 12:59 am (UTC)(link)
That's an awfully rude way to put that. The security guards are meant to be there for her protection and given some of these stadiums have 70,000 people a night in them screaming for her, that's not just 'paid to harass people'.

The guard was over-zealous and over-stepped but the security guards are there for damn good reasons. Or did you miss the news they arrested another stalker of hers three days ago? One who said he'd 'happily wear a bomb if he couldn't be with his soulmate?' AKA Taylor?

(Anonymous) 2023-06-14 01:41 am (UTC)(link)
Are you all right?

(Anonymous) 2023-06-14 01:48 am (UTC)(link)
That shit could've turned into Altamont pretty fast. People are so fucking animalistic and quick to pull out a gun in a crowd to solve their problems. What is wrong with a performer being concerned for their audience?

(Anonymous) 2023-06-14 02:56 am (UTC)(link)
Lol, this is the most determinedly ungenerous perspective you could possibly take on someone doing a good and caring thing at a time when all their energy and attention is being demanded by doing their job and also upholding their professional commitment as a performer to tens of thousands of people.

(Anonymous) 2023-06-14 06:47 am (UTC)(link)
"Did the bare minimum" is like "gaslighting." Sounds smart, so stupid people started saying it everywhere. Someone doing something good or decent that most people wouldn't do isn't doing the bare minimum, it's someone you don't like doing something praiseworthy that just you don't want anyone to praise them for because you don't like them.

(Anonymous) 2023-06-14 02:07 am (UTC)(link)
OP
It is cool that she did that. It's also cool that when I went to see Paramore, Hayley stopped the show because two fools in gen admission started fighting, she called them out and kicked them out of the show. And in the city before mine she stopped the show to check on another audience member who seemed to be having a medical emergency. MCR did something similar at their show. All these things are cool, and countless other musicians do the same and more, I'm sure. I just feel that these kinds of actions do not garner a spot beyond front page on Reddit or whatever entertainment space you partake in. The national news though?

Naturally, TS is incredibly popular and mainstream, but aside from hearing how she's sold out arenas, I just find the timing funny. The minute I'm checking Reddit I see the rumors of her and that bozo, and the next morning a piece praising her? Come on...

That's a PR team hard at work. I never heard on the news of all the other really nice things she's done for people, and I've never seen who she's dating on the news either. But when you have enough money and clout, you can shine a light on things you've done and have the national news pick up on it. And you can have them not cover every single kind thing you've done for fans.

None of this is to say she did that on purpose, I'm sure she cares about her fans and that was genuine. But if I was her PR manager, we're gonna ride the wave of the new album, sold out tours, and the fact that a fan is sharing their story on TikTok. Especially if it makes people look away from dating rumors. And in business, TS is no idiot. She's not a fool when it comes to her money.

(Anonymous) 2023-06-14 02:35 am (UTC)(link)
I totally agree with you about it being cool whenever an artist does something like that! But I disagree about the timing being suspicious. As a T-Swift fan, I can tell you from experience that when Taylor is touring, the "news" stories about things that happened at her most recent concert just never stop coming. Honestly, her shouting off a hostile security guard is one of the more interesting and deserving things that's made the news wrt her concerts.

I don't entirely disagree with you about PR being an aspect of it, though. It would be naive to think that PR is ever not an aspect of things where she's concerned, and undoubtedly her PR team was particularly encouraging of stories that highlighted her most clear-cut positive qualities right then. But that story absolutely would've been all over the place regardless, because anything that can be needlessly inflated into Clickbait About Taylor Swift gets to be a story when Taylor is touring and it's been that way for years--though I'm not sure it's ever been quite as intense as it is right now, because the Eras tour is borderline unprecedented in the sheer massiveness of its production.

(Anonymous) 2023-06-14 01:37 am (UTC)(link)
As a fan, I stick to the "no official confirmation from Taylor means I choose not to believe it " line. I still remember the days before Joe Alwyn, where tabs had her going out with enough men to form an army division. She actually had to make a statement that she had dated exactly two guys in three years to counteract the "psychotic maneater" narrative. I mean, that's what Blank Space is literally lampooning.

(Anonymous) 2023-06-14 11:13 am (UTC)(link)
If there’s one thing Taylor’s known for, it’s not reassuring her fans when they’re sad about something.

(Anonymous) 2023-06-14 03:58 pm (UTC)(link)
DA - So like, are you just pulling any old thing out of you ass that satisfies your hateboner for this person? Because it kinda seems that way.

(Anonymous) 2023-06-14 01:40 am (UTC)(link)
Well I was happy because I thought people might start caring about someone else for once. Too bad.

(Anonymous) 2023-06-14 11:28 am (UTC)(link)
I'm out of the loop, why is Healy terrible? all I know is from a quick Wikipedia perusal and like, so far I'm getting one shitty joke (that other people on a podcast made?) and what seems like a botched attempt to highlight Kanye Wests anti Semitism. based on the secrets here I was expecting an Andrew Tate stan

(Anonymous) 2023-06-14 07:54 pm (UTC)(link)
I do not have the energy to go into it fully, but you're not actually wrong. IMO he is low-level problematic and people are acting like he is high-key problematic. Most of the shit he's accused of is either laughing at something shitty someone else said and not discouraging them from it, or else badly executed commentary.

Pretty sure he's said a few problematic things himself, too, but his main sin seems to be a willingness to laugh along with the "joke" regardless of how racist/sexist/whateverist the "joke" actually is.

TW: racist violence

(Anonymous) 2023-06-14 08:09 pm (UTC)(link)
DA

The most disturbing thing I heard was that he masturbated to videos of Black women being brutalized.

Re: TW: racist violence

(Anonymous) 2023-06-14 08:11 pm (UTC)(link)
DA but, I mean, he's a shithead but there's a difference between a shithead and a neo-Nazi

Re: TW: racist violence

(Anonymous) 2023-06-15 01:29 am (UTC)(link)
https://www.themarysue.com/the-1975-matt-healy-controversy-explained/

He's more than a little bit racist.