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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2023-06-13 06:27 pm

[ SECRET POST #6003 ]


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[personal profile] fscom 2023-06-13 10:30 pm (UTC)(link)
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(Anonymous) 2023-06-13 10:58 pm (UTC)(link)
So...you're mad that ChibiUsa and Diana exist? I'm not being snarky this is a genuine question.

I don't disagree with you it's just that Sailormoon seems like a very weird example. I could totally see a case being made for Boruto or Legend of Kora.

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[personal profile] greghousesgf 2023-06-13 11:24 pm (UTC)(link)
I just get annoyed when a character suddenly poops out a baby when it was completely out of character for them to do so. Birth control exists.

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(Anonymous) 2023-06-13 11:22 pm (UTC)(link)
God hard same.

Related: I really really miss fandom being a kind of hush hush in the know kind of hobby. I hate that it's so mainstream.

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(Anonymous) 2023-06-13 11:49 pm (UTC)(link)
*sigh* Same. I feel like it's kind of made me not be able to make friends very easily, since my main hobby that I've devoted so much time and effort to is something I don't feel like I can talk about in public.

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I've felt more comfortable discussing my fanfic compared to my interest in the comments section of YouTube. I almost envy your position, OP.

(Anonymous) 2023-06-14 06:14 am (UTC)(link)
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Who's the "we" in "secretly claiming"?

From what I've seen, people have just straight out said it is a good film, from when it was released.

Yes, there is a divide on people who say it is a legit good film and those who say it's not a good film.

But to try to paint this opinion of "TLJ was good" as if we somehow are retroactively saying that it was immediately tossed aside as bad and "now" people are "trying to claim it's 'secretly' good" seems to me like someone is trying to repaint the narrative in their favor so they can use this as the slamdunk of "TLJ has always been bad and will always be bad, stop trying to pretend it is somehow good" to end conversation about TLJ.
And not as a real observation of how the discourse surrounding TLJ really went down.

It's OK that it was a devisive film. The Empire Strikes Back was devisive despite some trying to revision it as The One Every One Agreed For A Long Time As The Best Star Wars Film for quite a while (and IDK if people are still trying to make that claim but TESB was devisive for a long time, people just want to pretend they 'always' knew it was good when The Return of the Jedi was released and it disappointed people.

T_T SA -Misfire

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(Anonymous) 2023-06-14 01:12 pm (UTC)(link)
The old cringey stuff has been legitimatised in media and pop culture. Fanfic hasn’t, in fact it’s usually only brought up in negative context. It makes it a lot harder to fight preconceived assumptions when you don’t have some outside source to point to as a better depiction of what you do.
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[personal profile] philstar22 2023-06-13 10:50 pm (UTC)(link)
Or maybe different people have different opinions? Personally I think TROS was absolutely terrible both as a movie and as a Star Wars movie. But everyone has different opinions on things. Just because people disagree with you doesn't mean there is some conspiracy.

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(Anonymous) 2023-06-13 11:02 pm (UTC)(link)
You could equally make the exact same argument on the other foot. If TLJ is so obviously awful, why is there any entire cottage industry devoted to explaining how bad it is and how it ruined Star Wars forever? It's a completely symmetrical exercise. If TLJ is so obviously bad, why do you have to come to this website and make fandom secrets explaining how bad it is?

The reality is, for whatever reason, TLJ is a movie that many people are completely incapable of being normal about, whether they think it's good or they think it's bad. That isn't any kind of argument about its quality one way or the other. People are just crazy.

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(Anonymous) 2023-06-14 12:12 am (UTC)(link)
TLJ's quality aside, this strikes me as an extremely hollow argument. The youtube-clickbait-media-complex is full of Entire Industries discussing the Quality of Things. Across the Spiderverse has only been out for a few weeks and youtube is going absolutely feral trying to feed me an algorithm stuffed entirely with "this thing is great" - even thought I think most people agree that it is, in fact, great.

There are entire actual academic industries multiple centuries old discussing why Shakespeare or Milton or fucking Homer are great.

I'm not saying TLJ is on the level of any of those (LMAO) just that the existence of a dedicated fanbase making a cottage industry out of pro-thing commentary is not exactly, historically, a mark that Thing is obviously or objectively bad.

(Anonymous) 2023-06-14 12:14 am (UTC)(link)
I don't like The Last Jedi either but, unremitting hostility to things I do enjoy does tend to make me defensive and/or explainy about the reasons to like them.

It's not a mystery, bud.

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(Anonymous) 2023-06-14 01:29 am (UTC)(link)
The discourse around The Last Jedi drives me insane. People post hour-long videos on YouTube saying it sucks, so people post hour-long videos saying why it doesn't, so people post hour-long videos saying it does, ad infinitum

Love it, hate it, whatever. Just talk normally about it. It's just a movie.

For what it's worth, it's one of my favorite Star Wars movies and I could not care less whether other people like it or not. Just keep the discourse away from me.

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[personal profile] greghousesgf 2023-06-13 10:54 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't watch kids' movies in general. I just don't care for them. Usually the only circumstances were when I was over at a friend's house and my friend's kids were watching them and I keep my mouth shut to be polite but I don't enjoy them at all.

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As a fellow Bigfoot/cryptid enthusiast, Sasquatch Chronicles podcast has a mix of folklore from Native Americans and sightings from listeners. 274 to 328 has Tom Sewid, and several other episodes have other Natives sharing stories from their cultures.

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Right after I made this secret, I realized there was a drop-down button with a "show fewer posts like this" option. I'm very much not great with learning website functionality, and I hadn't realized this was a function at the time I made the secret. I'd tried to figure out how to block the sub, and couldn't, so I figured I just had to ignore the posts, which I found frustrating. So uh, that's the context for this secret. Derp.

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they broke up

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[personal profile] fscom 2023-06-13 10:45 pm (UTC)(link)
NS, NF, etc.

[personal profile] fscom 2023-06-13 10:45 pm (UTC)(link)
Official advertise your fandom-related event thread.

RULES FOR THIS:
1. NO images bigger than 600x600 in either direction (banners, et cetera).
2. ONE POST PER USER under this thread.
3. What IS allowed: roleplay advertisements, fandom comms, fandom events, things like that.
4. What is NOT allowed: anything for profit, any kind of fic/art commissions, seeking 1-on-1 RP, that kind of thing.

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General comments:

(If the thread contains spoilery/triggery content please warn/post as 2nd comment so it collapses!
Please collapse images, too!)

Have your teenhood songs made it to the retro station yet?

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If so, how do you feel about it?

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[personal profile] fscom 2023-06-13 10:45 pm (UTC)(link)
Games thread!