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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2023-06-16 06:21 pm

[ SECRET POST #6006 ]


⌈ Secret Post #6006 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2023-06-17 12:31 am (UTC)(link)
Tell me you don't understand the science without saying you don't understand the science...

(Anonymous) 2023-06-17 12:33 am (UTC)(link)
The "Science" you see doesn't always work like that in homo sapiens.

(Anonymous) 2023-06-17 01:15 am (UTC)(link)
AYRT

Yeah? That's the point. Troll anon I was responding to seems to think that all men have a specific amount of testosterone and THAT is what makes them hurhur strong. And that all women have a specific amount of estrogen which makes them hurhur weak. That's what we tell 3rd graders. It's not actually how this works. The graph of natural hormones in men and women overlap SIGNIFICANTLY. Women can naturally have high testosterone and men can naturally have weak testosterone and it does not effect their physical abilities at all. Don't even get me started on intersex, xx male syndrome, swyer syndrome, or klinefelter syndrome. It's almost like the human body is complicated, unable to be categorized neatly, and very individualized.....

(Anonymous) 2023-06-17 02:03 am (UTC)(link)
I'm that so called troll and nowhere did I say that.
I don't know why you suddenly brought up testosterone. I just replied to you once saying I don't know much about testosterone. I din't speak about it anywhere else.

(Anonymous) 2023-06-17 02:25 am (UTC)(link)
DA that's...the hormone (or at least one of them) that causes the dimorphism you're adamantly defending. The hormone that some cis women have naturally high levels of and are interrogated and banned from pro sports despite being born and raised as women.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex_verification_in_sports

(Anonymous) 2023-06-17 02:43 am (UTC)(link)
I can quote the study by some University about muscle mass and lung capacity in trans women but I don't know how credible is that University. My account for science journals has expired so I'm left with Google.
Wikipedia is not a credible source btw.
There is no FtM world level athlets. There's a few MtF ones. That is facts that I'm sure about.

(Anonymous) 2023-06-17 10:34 am (UTC)(link)
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I'm too lazy checking this University. Here's the link if anyone's interested.
https://bigthink.com/health/truth-about-transgender-womens-athletic-ability/

(Anonymous) 2023-06-17 06:20 pm (UTC)(link)
lol Big Think is funded by Peter Thiel (science denialist libertarian fascist who conducted unsupervised medical research on human beings) and the Koch foundation (fascists) among others. Try again.

(Anonymous) 2023-06-17 06:25 pm (UTC)(link)
DA

I'd say there's a difference between "funding" and "initial investment".

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/big-think/

(Anonymous) 2023-06-17 06:49 pm (UTC)(link)
Peter Thiel was an initial investor, which goes to the purpose of big think. The Koch still fund it, which goes to big think being a cover for them. It's a subtle manipulation but it's there.

They hide their dog whistles mixed in with legitimate science, so they can spread their ideas and recruit. Fascists like to abuse liberal support of free speech and science. One big example is the video that says right-wing policies have tragic outcomes, but we cant have left-wing style pay equality for women because enforcing pay equality would "obviously" have "tragic" outcomes as well. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8UVUnUnWfHI&ab_channel=BigThink

Obvious to who? Cause we've done the studies on it, and the science says left wing style pay equality (and left wing style bodily autonomy) is the ONLY way to lift communities and countries out of poverty, regardless of the mores of individual societies.

https://www.imf.org/en/Publications/Policy-Papers/Issues/2018/05/31/pp053118pursuing-womens-economic-empowerment

(Anonymous) 2023-06-17 06:52 pm (UTC)(link)
They didn't fund the reasearched and are not connected to that Brazilian University. The same study is on other sites as well.

(Anonymous) 2023-06-17 10:03 pm (UTC)(link)
Repeated from upthread:

They hide their dog whistles mixed in with LEGITIMATE SCIENCE, so they can spread their ideas and recruit. Fascists like to abuse liberal support of free speech and science. One big example is the video that says right-wing policies have tragic outcomes, but we cant have left-wing style pay equality for women because enforcing pay equality would "obviously" have "tragic" outcomes as well. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8UVUnUnWfHI&ab_channel=BigThink

(Anonymous) 2023-06-17 02:21 pm (UTC)(link)
Why are you so focused on winning and making records? MOST athletes don't win or make records. Let them compete as themselves for godsake.

(Anonymous) 2023-06-17 06:53 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, who cares who wins or loses? Sport is about participation. /s

(Anonymous) 2023-06-17 10:04 pm (UTC)(link)
You say /s, but.... it is. Especially for schoolaged children, which is where a LOT of the bans are addressed.

(Anonymous) 2023-06-18 01:56 pm (UTC)(link)
agreed on kid sport unless it affects sports scholarship.

(Anonymous) 2023-06-19 03:17 pm (UTC)(link)
If you want to go there, then trans kids are getting discriminated against for sports scholarships. I guarantee no kid is thinking "Huh, I'll risk getting beat up all the time by bullies in my school and getting killed by transphobes on the scientifically UNPROVEN chance that it will be a tiny bit easier to get a sports scholarship. That seems like a GREAT idea!"

(Anonymous) 2023-06-17 02:30 am (UTC)(link)
I'm that so called troll and nowhere did I say that.
I don't know why you suddenly brought up testosterone.


Because you did. Right here:

I do not know anything about girls with abnormally high testosterone levels but I suspect that they're taking some drugs to improve their perfomance

How can high testosterone levels make you suspect that they're taking performance enhancing drugs unless you think that testosterone makes you better at physical performances? I'll wait.

You do not see any FtM athlets competing, do you? Why is that?

We do. There's a list down below.

As you've said, you don't know a whole lot, so maybe shut up? About things you don't know about? Especially when people are using the same uneducated OPINION your spewing to oppress and abuse children.

(Anonymous) 2023-06-17 02:38 am (UTC)(link)
Yes, this is me replying to you. I said I replied after you bought it up? And so you quoted it for some reason.
I commented under the list, thanks.
Ok, yes, I'm wrong and you are right. You're very very right and correct about everything. No one but you knows about these things. I'm an uneducated troll. You did well winning the argument. Aplause. You're so awesome and good.

(Anonymous) 2023-06-17 02:09 pm (UTC)(link)
Good. I'm glad you understand yourself better. Cause... I noticed you had nothing to say with the actual points of the argument, so.... you unintentionally did a true! Even if it was unintentional, you said something true, I'm so proud!

(Anonymous) 2023-06-17 06:54 pm (UTC)(link)
clap-cplap! You won the argument! Go you!

(Anonymous) 2023-06-17 10:08 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh no, we're celebrating you! You said a true! Granted, just the one so far, but with more thought you'll be able to do a second! *clapclapclap*

(Anonymous) 2023-06-17 12:33 am (UTC)(link)
Is it all you can say? I thought you'll give me FtM athlets names. Oh, well.