[ SECRET POST #6009 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #6009 ⌋

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Comments

Re: Tumblr and attraction to men?

[(Anonymous)]

AYRT

I wouldn't like that very much, either! I'm sure it would turn my complaint into, "boy, I really don't like women as much as everyone else seems to..."

[dantesspirit]

Is it bad that I sat here, looking at all the dice, and saying I have that set and that set and that one...

And yes, it does suck that your gaming group died out- I've had that happen 3 times now, mostly because of the pandemic, work schedules and distance- it was generous of your friend to write up a story for everyone, even if unfinished, maybe you could finish it yourself, for yourself.

[(Anonymous)]

Yeh. Its fun.

[(Anonymous)]

I started playing video games with a girl in my fandom and she would randomly yell that out that she was gonna KHS over something in the game so I said, you know, "Well, I really hope you don't" and now she tries to catch herself when she kneejerk says it. I wish she wouldn't say it at all, but I guess small steps? I don't think there's much you can do unless you're actively friends with the people unfortunately.

[(Anonymous)]

I have haikubot blocked lol

Re: Exciting things!

[(Anonymous)]

Haha my face when Zoro was like, "No they don't." You'll get into the spirit eventually Zoro!

The trailer was so gooood, I loved how the Baratie looked, and that end clip with Sanji's foot smack down.

From what I've seen of the cast interactions they all seem to have that camaraderie which makes a good ensemble show too, which has me excited.

I can't wait~. As someone who started watching OP when it was first airing and the internet was a lawless wasteland of fansubs, this is one show I really hope they do justice. I do need to catch up though lol. I sort of fell off the wayside sometime around 2007 when I finished college and started working and ~life~ got in the way lol.

[(Anonymous)]

oh man, if I had a group of people actually invested in what I was writing and giving consistent glowing feedback, I would NOT be bitter about 'doing all the work'??

[(Anonymous)]

Recs are a good way to go, because yeah... 'non-traditional dynamics' can apparently mean ANYTHING.

There's a ST one right now that does actually go with 'omega consistently passes for alpha and retains all canon interests/attributes, alpha is consistently soft/less aggressive (canon compliant), and also wants to be the one getting railed' but it's a jungle out there (only the dangerous jungle animals are just the likelihood of seeing a canon buff, hairy jock guy get called 'princess' and wear skirts and panties)

Re: Tumblr and attraction to men?

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah-- you can also wind up with a dash where it's female characters who are forgiven every little thing!

I kid a little, but yeah, it's all about dash curation. And there will always be villain fans (for villains of all genders, mind), so if it bothers you, unfollow away!

Re: You know what dumb thing bothers me about age reg fic?

[(Anonymous)]

So much agreement on this, but it sort of mystifies me that it would be hard to find, because usually fandom is pretty on target about thinkig over *why* something is appealing and what the focal point ought to be. Even for things that seem subtle and non-intuitive outside of the culture. I mean. Hurt/comfort seems like a related trope, to be honest. This is old hurt/delayed comfort.

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah. I get that insidious vibe from "kill yourself" too. It can be very "I judge you as harshly as humanly possible, and I'm judging you MORE because you apparently don't." And, like ... most people growing up in the first world already do that to themselves enough to make themselves miserable for no reason. Throwing it around on purpose does not help.

I guess it went from having an emotional impact to being something that young people online encounter so often and over such trivial things that it seems more like a hyperbolic social tic than a terrible thing.

But I empathize with your finding that uncomfortable anyway: with me and mine, saying "kill yourself" carried a social price. It was not something I did, and not something I was friends with anyone who would do. And if it becomes something internet people are just numb to, I'm going to dismiss any number of people who genuinely think what they're doing is no big deal.

[(Anonymous)]

I know, right? But yeah, it does suck.

It's sort of emblematic of the lack of social consideration on social media - people other each other over very little, and rage like they're cussing out the devil himself just because they heard something they judge harshly.

I like that it's very much not the norm on the spaces I've frequented in DW.

[(Anonymous)]

This. Although you can also use it as a way to filter out people who don't care whether they're being hurtful. IME.

[(Anonymous)]

IKR? My mother started playing an open world video game while convalescing after a serious foot injury, and now she's mutuals with several teenagers trying to survive high school. It's been funny to see the effect she has on their speech patterns? Because their general level of level of comfort with casually talking about suicidal ideation is completely foreign to her. And at the same time, they seem to really appreciate being friends with someone who treats them like they're worth taking seriously and their feelings matter.

I have a good mom. I'm sure a lot of other people are benefiting from being able to talk to her. But sometimes I also just find it really cute how they meet each other partway across generation gaps.

Re: Tumblr and attraction to men?

[(Anonymous)]

DA

See ... as a villain-fan also, I'd put to you that women are often used as the Voice of Conventional Morality in stories. The ones making a disapproving face and angsting about the innocent victims and clamoring for our guys to be punished for their transgressions are overwhelmingly likely to be women. I've never hesitated to rake a man over the coals, when they're cast in that role (including the main heroes), but patriarchy has given us the shitty stereotype that the ones who are supposed to voice the conscience of society are women.

And it's presented as a binary - you have good, healthy girls that disapprove of villainy, juxtaposed against us degenerates who are disparaged explicitly for FAILING to disapprove of villainy. All that sneering talk about how "girls love bad boys" is literally society speaking out of both sides of its mouth. Because when it's not holding forth about women being so much kinder, more moral, and more likely to hear the pain of the downtrodden and crusade against injustice, it's pretending the only reason we could possibly respond positively to villains is because they make us wet. It can take serious work to maintain cordial relations in fandom when "the hero's female fans are doing it right, while the villain's fans are setting themselves up to have abusive relationships" is what passes for social commentary from canon creators. I really appreciate that the people writing manga and anime largely refuse to make moral pronouncements this. But I'm fed up to the teeth with it from American creators.

In my case it's never been about feeling threatened by onscreen women, per se. A lot of the time I would love it if there was some character who would voice the sorts of things I feel like saying and be there for my faves when otherwise they have to make do alone. Emotionally or literally. But ... it's not one content creator in a hundred in the US who can do that with a female character in a way that I feel represented, as opposed to dragged onscreen to be ridiculed. Like, "look at this stuuuupid girl with her stupid crush, even the object of her affections is disgusted with her!" You know? Solidly supportive, functional relationships are a rarity for villains anyway, but more so still if their dragon is female. The last one I can think of that was even sort of like that was the dynamic between Magneto and Mystique in the X-Men movies. But if more women were being represented like that, I think you'd find that a lot of villain fans would love them and write them and respond so much more positively to the fact that they exist than to these piles of in-canon girls who are either there to oppose the villain or there to be exploited by him.

Re: Tumblr and attraction to men?

[(Anonymous)]

DA

But you actually made me laugh, here. Same, anon.

Re: Tumblr and attraction to men?

[(Anonymous)]

Nah, I kinda disagree. I came across the wikipedia page about Amelia Dyer the other day (who's been cited as possibly the most prolific, successful serial killer in history) and it's haunting stuff. We perennially have Jack the Ripper again, in incarnation whatever, with new actor whoever, while I'd literally never heard of this woman. She would make a great villain protagonist, and she's incredibly rooted in a historical period when infanticide was a lot more common because abortion was illegal and the English state apparatus had rolled back its laws on child support for fathers of illegitimate children. So this sinister and quite possibly mentally ill lady literally made her living from young working women who paid her a lump sum, expecting her to give the poor baby they would be fired if anyone knew they'd given birth to a good life, and instead of raising them, she would strangle the infants and dump them in the river. No one knows exactly how many she killed, the estimate hovers around a stunning 400, but this was the extreme form of a known crime in that time period in England: "baby-farming."

And apparently we can't have fictionalized accounts of that because the canon creators are too busy rehashing the stories of villains who are men.

But really, no one knows the scope of what women would stan if they had it. While what keeps being made (and remade) is incredibly narrow.

[(Anonymous)]

It's fine for fetishes to have limits within them.
For example I'm not big on Futanari. At all. Unless it happens to be a female hyena person.

I absolutely love monster-smut, but as soon as these Egyptian gods/Werewolves/Minotaurs are actually space aliens who just happen to look like what humans call Werewolves, I lose all interest.

Re: Exciting things!

[(Anonymous)]

The Sanji scene was amazing. The way he casually kept hold of the dish he was carrying while kicking was *chef's kiss*, pun entirely intended.

You stopped in 2007?? That puts you around *checks wiki* the Enies Lobby arc? Oh, wow, if you decide to catch up, you are in for a treat! Some amazing arcs are right around the corner.

[(Anonymous)]

NAYRT but this is so very wholesome, thank you for sharing it.