[ SECRET POST #6009 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #6009 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

I guess if us oldfen ever said DIAF to someone, we don't have that much of a leg to stand on, but I still don't like KYS at all.

[(Anonymous)]

I dunno. "Die in a fire" seems less harsh because of the exaggeration and because it doesn't necessarily denote suicide. Killing yourself is... altogether too close to home for a lot of people.

[(Anonymous)]

To me, it's the implication of KYS - that you should realise you have so little worth that you should take your own life. It absolves the speaker of the responsibility, the onus is on the one being spoken to.

Whereas DIAF is more circumstance. It's "I wish you an unpleasant death" rather than "realise how worthless you are and make the world a better place by removing yourself from it". One is more personal than the other to me, which is why I'd be fine with DIAF but not KYS. (I've never said either, for the record).

[(Anonymous)]

NAYRT - Huh, yeah, this is well articulated, and ITA. (Though like you, I also never told anyone to DIAF, back when that was a thing people said. I think I only ever used to be hyperbolic about something that was annoying me, like, "Gah, this essay I have to write/the ants in my kitchen/liver meat/the garbage truck that makes noise outside my house every single morning needs to DIAF."

[(Anonymous)]

I agree - in my experience DIAF was always directed at things/situations, not people.

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[(Anonymous)]

a great reply, thank you!
yeah, KYS still feels worse...

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah. I get that insidious vibe from "kill yourself" too. It can be very "I judge you as harshly as humanly possible, and I'm judging you MORE because you apparently don't." And, like ... most people growing up in the first world already do that to themselves enough to make themselves miserable for no reason. Throwing it around on purpose does not help.

I guess it went from having an emotional impact to being something that young people online encounter so often and over such trivial things that it seems more like a hyperbolic social tic than a terrible thing.

But I empathize with your finding that uncomfortable anyway: with me and mine, saying "kill yourself" carried a social price. It was not something I did, and not something I was friends with anyone who would do. And if it becomes something internet people are just numb to, I'm going to dismiss any number of people who genuinely think what they're doing is no big deal.

[(Anonymous)]

Ia, to my mind there's really no difference between them

[(Anonymous)]

as another oldfen, my friends and I only ever used DIAF as a joke amongst ourselves. but i agree, somehow KYS seems harsher to me

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[(Anonymous)]

I'm sorry but this is the first time I see DIAF haha. maybe I'm not as old as I thought (mid 30s here, from Europe). anyway, never yoused DIAF or KYS in my whole internet life.