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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2023-06-23 08:09 pm

[ SECRET POST #6013 ]


⌈ Secret Post #6013 ⌋

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[The Witcher: Blood Origin]



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[Taskmaster]



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07. [WARNING for discussion of child pornography, child molestation/underage sexual assault]




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(Anonymous) 2023-06-24 10:12 am (UTC)(link)
Wait so rich white ladies are automatically not feminists?

(Anonymous) 2023-06-24 12:43 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, that's what I've been wondering about. I also love the snide assumption that white women can't possibly experience discrimination based on the fact that they are women, at a time when the courts and legislatures in my country are actively trying to take civil rights away from women as a gender.

(Anonymous) 2023-06-24 12:50 pm (UTC)(link)
Internet leftists genuinely don't think white women face any oppression as women. I have seen the question "Are you seriously saying white women are oppressed?" being asked in earnest.

(Anonymous) 2023-06-24 03:03 pm (UTC)(link)
So what do they think abortion bans, the attempts to go after no-fault divorce and the way sexual assault victims are treated are? Or the fact that women are still paid less for dong the same jobs?

(Anonymous) 2023-06-24 03:04 pm (UTC)(link)
SA Not to mention the fact that teaching being so poorly paid likely has a lot to do with most of the people in the profession being women.

(Anonymous) 2023-06-24 03:14 pm (UTC)(link)
Something something it's mostly poor uneducated BiPoc women who use those services the most so it's actually a race thing something something.
Which is pretty racist in itself but hey. Seen that exact type of arguing more than I'd like.

(Anonymous) 2023-06-24 10:29 pm (UTC)(link)
I've seen misogynists on reddit use a Bill Burr comedy routine basically saying this and it's beyond infuriating.
As in Fuck off, Bill Burr! A white man trying to talk about the experiences of all women, trying to score some kind of leftist points (but in reality enabling misogynists).

(Anonymous) 2023-06-24 01:48 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't think that's the implication. More like you can't call something a feminist classic when it focuses almost entirely on rich white ladies. Just like you can't call something an LGBTQ classic when it focuses entirely on rich white
cis gay men.

Do rich white cis gay men face discrimination? 100% they do. Would you call media focused only on rich white cis gay men 'LGBTQ masterpieces' especially if they mocks for example, black lesbians along the way? Wow, I would hope not.

Someone else above put it best, the movie is a great and fun example of a very specific, narrow kind of feminism. Just like that movie only about gay men would be very specific, narrow kind of queer media for a specific audience. I don't see why it's so surprising that those not in that specific audience are annoyed when people say that this feminism that specifically doesn't include them is super and/or representative.

Same anon, cont.

(Anonymous) 2023-06-24 01:57 pm (UTC)(link)
And when someone points out maybe this piece of media has issues and maaaybe shouldn't be referred to as a general masterpiece representative of the group due to said issues, they get responses like "you think everything has to be about you" and "what, are you saying Elle should have been black and this should have been all about black women?" <- literally responses the OP got in their original thread

Re: Same anon, cont.

(Anonymous) 2023-06-24 03:15 pm (UTC)(link)
If Elle was a filthy rich black woman, not too much would change about the movie, actually.

Re: Same anon, cont.

(Anonymous) 2023-06-24 03:28 pm (UTC)(link)
+100

Re: Same anon, cont.

(Anonymous) 2023-06-24 06:42 pm (UTC)(link)
Purposely missing the point.

(Anonymous) 2023-06-24 03:19 pm (UTC)(link)
Something can still be a "any group of choice" classic even though it doesn't check all possible boxes included in that group, what the hell are you talking about. The fact that some things might not have been greatly handled doesn't immediately negate the classic status.