[ SECRET POST #6015 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #6015 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.


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[fscom]

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[(Anonymous)]

> why the franchise keeps failing to take off

GI Joe is one of the most popular action figures of all time and deeply influential in its time. I assume it's not as popular nowadays because American army man isn't as strong a selling point after the public backlash against the Vietnam War.

(let's be real, is there a more bland, generic name possible than Action Force?)

[(Anonymous)]

Right? Like...are they talking about commics? Or about the genx defining toy commercial known as a cartoon? It was huge once, but it has run its course. GI Joe as a toy doll predated every other iteration, I want to say 1950s or 60s, and it has a very niche market: rah rah military good USA USA. And these days? LMFAO yeah try getting that to take off anywhere.

I suppose rebooting the 80s cartoon is possible with its PSA messages to educate a new generation, but a military organization with one woman and strict stereotypes for its POC "roles" would not be an appropriate vehicle for the 2020's version of "knowing is half the battle."

[(Anonymous)]

GI Joe has been extremely successful in three different forms! It was an enormously successful toy line in the 60s, and an extremely successful toy and cartoon line in the 80s, and a successful blockbuster movie franchise in the 21st century!

IDK how much more you can ask from a franchise, especially one as fundamentally basic and generic as "Army Man".

[(Anonymous)]

I'm not familiar with the toys and cartoons (I'm not american), but aren't the movies considered flops? I've never seen anyone remember them with good words.

[(Anonymous)]

They weren't critically respected, but I think they made money. The first one made $302.5 million on a $175 million budget - which isn't great, but apparently enough for a sequel - and then the sequel made $375 million on a $140 millionish budget.

So not like, super amazing or anything, but I wouldn't call them flops or commercial failures either.

[pantswarrior]

I definitely know a lot of 80s-90s kids who saw them and enjoyed them. Same kinds of folks who would have nostalgia for the GI Joe cartoon of old. I'm assuming that was largely the market the movies were made for, though they probably would have been pleased to expand beyond that audience.

[meadowphoenix]

I think GI Joe is more indicative of the perspective and for that reason I think its better

[(Anonymous)]

GI Joe is very American. It works if you are targeting an American only market, but in a wider context it does lack social context.

[(Anonymous)]

It promises America-centric military action and that's exactly what it delivers. You don't expect anything else. It's always been called "GI Joe" in my country, I remember watching the cartoon in the 80s.

[(Anonymous)]

Honestly at this point, even in America, the main social context for "GI Joe" is the toys. We're a long, long, long way from anyone using "GI Joe" in any other sense, although people are still familiar with "GI".

[(Anonymous)]

*GI Joe voice*

GEE EYE JOEEEEEE

[(Anonymous)]

Uh, what?

[(Anonymous)]

Uh, what what?

[(Anonymous)]

in the butt

[(Anonymous)]

okay, troll

Yup.

[(Anonymous)]

They should totally stop using their trademarked name of sixty years and go with a very generic one. I am sure that it's the name that's holding back the successful toy line from being more successful. /s

I have to ask, though, why is it so stupid to you? It's a name that's been used for random military for a long time. Is it because it's sometimes not a positive association? Is it because of the 'Government Issue' or 'General Issue' (I always thought that was kind of funny)? Do you not like the name Joe?

[(Anonymous)]

I'm not American, so I'm not sure if there is a secondary meaning to "GI Joe", but I do think it stands out a little more than Action Force.

[(Anonymous)]

To be fair, very few names would stand out less than Action Force.

[(Anonymous)]

OP is obviously not a child of the 1980's.