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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2023-06-30 02:31 pm

[ SECRET POST #6020 ]


⌈ Secret Post #6020 βŒ‹

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DA

(Anonymous) 2023-07-01 01:10 am (UTC)(link)
Hardly a gotcha, more a "glad my intuition is in the right place" and agreed

Re: DA

(Anonymous) 2023-07-01 01:25 am (UTC)(link)
"Intuition." Uh huh.

Using some scandal or crime to try to retroactively justify your distatse for a piece of art never makes you look cool or intelligent.

Re: DA

(Anonymous) 2023-07-01 02:55 am (UTC)(link)
Honestly, hardly took a genius mind to feel something was off with that mysogynistic PoS

Re: DA

(Anonymous) 2023-07-01 05:54 am (UTC)(link)
Comment op - +1
Transgressive art has a right to exist

Re: DA

(Anonymous) 2023-07-02 12:24 am (UTC)(link)
Transgressive art has a right to exist

How is that relevant?

Re: DA

(Anonymous) 2023-07-02 06:30 am (UTC)(link)
Sa-- read the comment I was replying to.

Re: DA

(Anonymous) 2023-07-01 05:58 am (UTC)(link)
I'm not sure how much you know about Lindemann but he wrote several published "poems" that were basically just deeply misogynistic rape fantasies. And while this was in line with the whole shtick the band always had going on with their super cheap "be shocking for shock and outrage's sake", the poetry was extra skeevy. And he was criticized for it only for all criticism to be shouted down because it was just ~β˜†artβ˜†~.
Only to learn that huh, maybe not so much.

Re: DA

(Anonymous) 2023-07-01 12:11 pm (UTC)(link)
I'll still defend his right to write that poetry even if you consider it tasteless

Re: DA

(Anonymous) 2023-07-01 12:33 pm (UTC)(link)
I am absolutely in favour of people being allowed to write what they want because I know that fiction=/=reality.
However, it's pretty likely that in this rare case fiction=reality and people not being particularly shocked about thow the guy writing detailed rape fantasy poems is an actual abuser is also not exactly surprising.

Re: DA

(Anonymous) 2023-07-01 08:37 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah. It reminds me of when people are told someone did something bad, and their immediate reaction is belief and "see, I knew it, I never liked them" ... regardless of whether that was true or not, and often without their having given any hint of holding that opinion, before.

Maybe that's not what's going on with the OP and this particular singer, but it's still my main association with the behavior.

Re: DA

(Anonymous) 2023-07-01 10:31 am (UTC)(link)
My issue with him was that he kept getting away with utterly vile misogynistic shit under the guise of "transgressive art".

Re: DA

(Anonymous) 2023-07-06 08:13 am (UTC)(link)
I don't have an opinion on this, not having seen his poetry. But I'll certainly keep it in mind going forward.