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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2023-06-30 02:31 pm

[ SECRET POST #6020 ]


⌈ Secret Post #6020 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2023-07-02 12:05 am (UTC)(link)
Idk if you realize but most disruptive activism is going to just be clocked as annoyance by most people, because they care more about their personal routines being disrupted than about whatever cause the activists care about (think about blocking a highway at rush hour). The real measure isn’t how many people skipped over the fics & were annoyed at anyone who participated, the real measure is did it further the cause of the activism?

In this case it did. OTW was silent for literal years, then this campaign happened, got enough ppl to care, & suddenly OTW did the thing the campaign wanted them to do

So yeah, mission absolutely accomplished actually

(Anonymous) 2023-07-02 12:12 am (UTC)(link)
DA

think about blocking a highway at rush hour

I personally don’t think that’s a great example of a good protest, if that’s what you’re implying it is. It’s not a harmless thing to do, because while some people will just have their routine shaken up a bit, others might have had something really important they were on their way to. And you can’t always take another route depending on where the highway is blocked off, and you can’t really turn back most of the time.

I’m not disagreeing with any of your other points though.

(Anonymous) 2023-07-02 12:26 am (UTC)(link)
I don’t think it’s a “good” protest, it’s just a similar principle of doing something mildly disruptive (as opposed to not disruptive at all, or majorly disruptive). Irl mildly disruptive can still have real consequences beyond annoyance, online mildly disruptive is literally what this campaign did, making the normal browsing experience a little less smooth & pleasant. That was my point.

(Anonymous) 2023-07-02 02:00 am (UTC)(link)
It's more than just mildly disruptive to the people they've been bullying and harassing and calling "pokemon of color."

(Anonymous) 2023-07-02 12:17 am (UTC)(link)
AYRT

Except not. Cause this shit didn't start going on fic titles until AFTER AO3 brought in the anti-harassment changes.

They got what they (said they) wanted. You can't be actively racist against someone who won't let you. Racist and harassing a fan of color? BOOM, you're blocked! Leave racists comments on a fic? BOOM deleted and blocked!

So why did people suddenly start putting this on their fic titles NOW? Because protecting fans of color wasn't what they wanted at all. They're antis. And they don't stop until they get to ban everything they think is gross.

(Anonymous) 2023-07-02 12:30 am (UTC)(link)
Lol they wanted OTW to update about hiring a consultant which they promised to do in 2020, that’s literally it. OTW could have said “actually we made these changes, so no need” & that also would have been an update

But I guess OTW board actually disagrees with you that the changes they made are sufficient because they still wanna hire a consultant

(Anonymous) 2023-07-02 12:53 am (UTC)(link)
From the OTW site:


Internally, back in 2021 the OTW opened recruitment for a Diversity Consultant Research Officer (DCRO). They began their work in 2022, contacting internal stakeholders and researching firms. The DCRO hopes to finish their internal studies by September, and has already begun to investigate potential contractors.

So... they're still working on it. They've been working on it for two years. They've said they're still working on it. What's the campaign for again?

(Anonymous) 2023-07-02 01:10 am (UTC)(link)
The campaign was specifically to get the update you’re quoting, which only happened thanks to the campaign. Now it’s about continuing to hold OTW accountable so they continue to update regularly (thing it’s not actually a campaign anymore, that’s ended). It’s… really not that deep or that complicated

(Anonymous) 2023-07-02 02:01 am (UTC)(link)
This. 100% this.