[ SECRET POST #6021 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #6021 ⌋

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Comments

Re: Secrets you don't want to make...

[(Anonymous)]

da

I 100% see an IRL couple in that situation as gay, and see m/m ships with a trans character as gay, cause yeah, it's two guys. Anyone who doesn't feel the same can fuck right off. At the same time though, PIV has heavy social connotations around heterosexuality and carries a lot of baggage. For trans people too, not just for transphobes. When it comes to a made up sexual fantasy, I don't see it as transphobic when readers don't want to imagine PIV.

Re: Secrets you don't want to make...

[(Anonymous)]

This!

Re: Secrets you don't want to make...

[(Anonymous)]

Now you're basically back to assuming the motives of fanfic writers and what they end up writing are completely different from anything that happens with IRL cis and trans gay couples. You're not going to know what sex is like for most of those couples because most people don't tell everyone the details of how they have sex. You just assume that their IRL sex is completely different from what fic writers write... and somehow you know this.

Well if we're honest, sex in fanfic usually isn't anything like sex IRL no matter who the characters are. And if someone does have trouble ever seeing PIV sex as not het, that's also honestly fair. But if you truly accept that trans men are men and don't want to be transphobic, that's the kind of thought you keep to yourself (and there's no judgment for that. Thoughtcrimes aren't real) including when it comes to fanfic. Including when it comes to thinking you know the people writing the fic are really trying to write het. All you need to do is ask people to tag their fic for non-canon trans characters, and not read that fic. None of that is transphobic. "Calling out" writers for writing stealth het by means of trans headcanons is. Even if that really is why they're doing it (spoiler: it's not.) You don't know. The only one who knows would be the writer, and as stated before, thoughtcrimes aren't real. Calling out writers for their alleged motives harms trans people more than the possibility that perhaps some of them are viewing what they write as het. If you're really concerned about the trans people reading the fic being triggered by dysphoria, again, that's what proper tags are for. So just focus on telling people to tag their fic and leave it.

Re: Secrets you don't want to make...

[(Anonymous)]

ayrt

Sure, I can see what you're saying, but idk why you're replying it to me like I'm in here arguing against it? The first paragraph doesn't even make sense, you don't know anything about who I am IRL or what kind of relationships I have, and it sounds like you've misinterpreted my meaning.

What I meant to say was that some people do have that type of association with PIV, which you seem to agree with too. I don't have any assumptions about fic writers' motivations, people write all kinds of stuff for all kinds of reasons. I wasn't one of the people
calling trans/cis slash het in this thread, thanks. The farthest I'll ever go in that direction is to say that some sex acts and kinks are associated with hetero sex in a wider social context, which I do feel it is possible to acknowledge without insulting trans sexuality. I don't personally have a problem with people discussing their feelings around this in a respectful manner, though I agree with you that there are a lot of disrespectful comments in this particular discussion. Apologies if my comment came across as disrespectful as well.

"All you need to do is ask people to tag their fic" this! Yeah, I always appreciate tags on smut fics.