[ SECRET POST #6021 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #6021 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.


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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 02 pages, 44 secrets from Secret Submission Post #861.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

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Name the fandom. And repeats, etc.

(If you think something in this thread is a troll, please ignore it! Conversation is fine, but OT wank makes stuff harder to keep track of in this thread. Thanks.)

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01. https://i.imgur.com/Dnt2xcV.png

[(Anonymous)]

I've had a thing where I knew it just wasn't for me turn into hate because everyone else loves it so much it. The fact that it's a FMV in your fandom, I'm sorry OP. That's rough.

[(Anonymous)]

What's the F stand for?

[(Anonymous)]

I honestly don’t agree with one part of this secret. This is probably entirely because I’m an editor, so I’m probably biased.

But I feel like while “the video didn’t tell a story” is a fine criticism, even if I don’t always agree with it, it doesn’t mean that the video has no “theme”. Edits also don’t need to have a story, theme, or have commentary to be good. Just using the right clips for the moment, or having technical skill enough to sync the clips to the beat, makes for a good video. Which is probably why this video is so popular. But while it’s not required to be good, having a story, theme, and commentary is also a great thing. And it can make for a good video even if you’re new to editing and don’t have experience with it yet. There’s so many ways to make a good video, even if they don’t always click or resonate with everyone.

And it definitely doesn’t mean that it “has no soul” like someone who replied to the comment secret said. I am aware that you’re not the one who said that, I just didn’t see the comment thread until way later, but still wanted to say something about it. You can feel free to ignore this paragraph, since it’s not a reply to you directly, OP. But the “no soul” comment was the thing the really got me, because I don’t agree with that way of thinking here. If someone put time and effort into an edit, it has soul. It’s like a lot of art that way. But editing isn’t something that people make money from, with very few exceptions, because of the frequently copyrighted nature of the clips and music. So it doesn’t even fit typical “soulless” media criticisms, that are usually about works that are cash-grabs. I still think these videos are transformative enough that they shouldn’t be targeted more than other works that use copyrighted material, but that’s a different argument. Either way, I can’t speak for every editor, but every AMV and GMV I’ve made has taken a lot of time and effort, and every single one means a lot to me. Even the ones I don’t think are very good anymore. So for someone to come and say “this has no soul”, I don’t like that. I would hate hearing that more than someone saying they think it’s bad. And it could come off as pretentious judgment. Even the videos that barely seem like they have had any effort put into the scenes, or the flow, or don’t have an overall theme have a soul. Just making the video because you wanted to make something that combined a show/movie/game/manga/comic you liked with a song you liked is reason enough for it to exist, even if you don’t have much experience yet. And I feel that those videos have just as much personality as the better made ones. Again, I personally feel that my perceptions and experiences as an editor can’t help but influence my opinions on this matter, and I’m probably being too sensitive. I know I made this big wall of text, but I’m not meaning to attack the person who commented that for their opinion. I just really disagree with the words. If I’ve phrased something as combative or judgmental of them as a person vs. just explaining why I disagree with their opinion, then I apologize. That’s not my intention, but intentions only go so far.

Going back to you OP, I know I said I understand why the video is probably popular, but I also understand feeling hype backlash. So there’s nothing wrong with how you feel. I still disagree that a video has to “say something” to be worthwhile. But you being sick of the FMV, and you being annoyed by it’s hype is understandable. Everyone’s been there at some point for different things.

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I feel you, OP.

I love fanvids, but I miss the vids of the 00's era, where the editing worked closely with the lyrics to convey a particular idea/perspective regarding the text, as well as a feeling. And most of the time there was no dialogue.

The more modern school of vids have very smooth, snappy editing, but I tend to get bored before they're even over, because there's not a lot of deliberate conceptual editing for me to sink my teeth into--just vibes. Sometimes a particular line will sync up with a particular clip, but often the connection is pretty basic: the lyric said the word "hit" and the character got punched, etc. But if there's no through-thread, if it's just a smattering of matchy-matchy one-offs, then I may have fun with the vid for three and a half minutes, but it's probably not going to actually move me, or burn itself into my mind for later consideration or anything like that.

On another note: remember the early 2010's when for some reason everything had that super intense filter on it? God, that was a choice. XD

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I actually like that type of editing just as much as when there's more of a story, but I sympathize with being irritated when everyone is overhyping something you're not into! It definitely can sour it.

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[(Anonymous)]

That's fair honestly. I like the books and movies but they are very much a product of their time in regards to the gender demographics, hell this is still an issue with modern writers so not much has changed in some places. But don't force it if it's not for you, we all have our different quitting parameters. :)

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Yeah, fair.

Like, I think it's a great book, but it's absolutely male-centric, so if that's an issue...

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You are denying yourself beautiful literature. This is sad.

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I feel EXACTLY the same. Sometimes I try to talk myself into reading male centric books, like, I'm an adult, I can handle it. Then I read a few pages and immediately have to quit. There's just nothing there to motivate me to read further.

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I wouldn't worry about it. I left after trying The Hobbit because I found Tolkien's storytelling boring, but I usually avoid saying that around English speaking friends out of politeness.

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Hey, if the books didn't work for you, they didn't work for you and that's OK.

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I don't think their genders are particularly relevant to the story. You could pretend they were all women and nothing would have to change.

In fact, I vaguely recall someone wrote an essay about how whenever they read the Hobbit growing up they always saw Bilbo as a girl. The details are fuzzy to me beyond that though. Anyone else know what I'm talking about?

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Perhaps I'm weird, but I like when these start appearing.

It's means that this person I like has become popular enough for others to notice, and I'm happy for them! Doubly so if they put bookmarks in their videos so I can easily skip over the promo part.

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04. https://i.imgur.com/Oq8JtGg.png

[(Anonymous)]

Fair. It is very episodic for a movie.

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05. https://i.imgur.com/M1BCw3v.png

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I liked both.

Enjoyed Peggy/Angie for the meet-cute bff's to lovers angle and enjoyed Peggy/Dottie for the enemies to reluctant allies to lovers angle. They both have their merits as ships.

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I honestly have no idea what this secret is trying to say or what point it's trying to make

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The appropriating of ship names from The Culture for his barges and spaceships is what gets me. Iain M Banks would have loathed Musk, the guy was a leftwing self described communist-hippy, and as far as in-universe of The Culture. Musk is exactly the sort of guy that Special Circumstances would see as... well, let us euphemistically say, a hindrance to progress and someone whose absence would advance society more than their presence.

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... but you wouldn't mind if someone else made them for you! As always, including the fandom and full character names is a big help, and I'll try my best to use an appropriate image choice.

Just to clarify - it's my intention to make all the secrets left in this thread, so even if they're not marked claimed, they will be made. I'll monitor this thread until tomorrow's secret post goes up, so feel free to leave your comments until then!

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