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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2023-07-09 03:08 pm

[ SECRET POST #6029 ]


⌈ Secret Post #6029 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2023-07-09 07:19 pm (UTC)(link)
Fair.

Studios are starting to work this out too. When you spend three hundred million on a movie and it makes only four-five hundred million, that is not a lot of profit after marketing. When you spend thirty million on a movie, and it makes sixty-seventy million, that is all gold baby. Or even less, I think studios are going to be looking at their balance sheets and slushpiles very carefully next year, and there will be less big franchise tentpoles. Superhero movies are not going away, ever, they will always be popular, but there will be more room in the release schedule for smaller movies. Maybe some mid budget romcoms too.

(Anonymous) 2023-07-09 11:56 pm (UTC)(link)
Eh, I can live with rom-coms myself. Their relative absence has been one of the few movie trends I like.

(Anonymous) 2023-07-09 11:56 pm (UTC)(link)
SA

Live without*
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[personal profile] randomdrops 2023-07-09 08:16 pm (UTC)(link)
I really love the image for this secret. So calming.

I think you're right about us all being tired (and strapped for cash) and looking for more low key entertainment. I think that's a big part why "cozy fantasy" has taken off as a genre in the past couple of years. I would love it if you're right and the same type of cozy low stakes genre comes to films and TV soon.

(Anonymous) 2023-07-09 08:35 pm (UTC)(link)
I would love some low stakes cozy fantasy, costume drama, Sci fi, anything really.

(Anonymous) 2023-07-09 09:55 pm (UTC)(link)
My kingdom for a cozy gay fantasy series

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(Anonymous) 2023-07-09 09:11 pm (UTC)(link)
Goddamned yes. I want movies that rely on actual good writing and good acting and not overworked and underpaid CGI artists.

(Anonymous) 2023-07-10 06:22 am (UTC)(link)
+1000

(Anonymous) 2023-07-09 09:22 pm (UTC)(link)
I mean, frankly, I doubt it.

I think studios will probably cut back on some of the excessive production costs for blockbusters - stuff where it's like $250 million or $300 million instead of $150 million, totally unnecessarily.

But I just don't see any reason to think that filmgoers would prefer to watch a $20 million or $50 million movie over a $150 million action blockbuster. Sure, there are exceptions on each side - there are really well-done mid-budget movies that catch fire and there are action tentpoles that flop. And for creative reasons and for the sustainability of the industry, it's important to have more mid-budget movies in the pipeline. But I think at the end of the day, most moviegoers just prefer big action blockbusters over other kinds of movies.

(Anonymous) 2023-07-10 06:29 am (UTC)(link)
Somehow, I really can't picture anyone looking over their life when they're dying and thinking "I watched so many cars blow up on TV. Time well spent."

There are movies that I feel lucky I got to experience, but "big action blockbusters" rarely qualify.

(Anonymous) 2023-07-10 07:32 am (UTC)(link)
Unfortunately - much as I might wish it were otherwise - major film studios are not in the business of giving people experiences they can look back on at the end of their days and find meaningful.

(Anonymous) 2023-07-09 09:39 pm (UTC)(link)
I hope you're right but I'm not much of a regular moviegoer so I can't really remember a previous point in this cycle where low budget indie movies dominated the cinema...

(Anonymous) 2023-07-09 09:48 pm (UTC)(link)
Welcome to the nineties.

https://the-take.com/watch/how-indie-film-ruled-the-90s-and-how-it-fell#:~:text=The%20%2790s%20indie%20explosion%20was,conventional%20fare%20with%20countercultural%20energy.

(Anonymous) 2023-07-09 09:58 pm (UTC)(link)
DA

90s indie movies were great but they definitely didn't dominate the box office

(Anonymous) 2023-07-09 11:10 pm (UTC)(link)
I was alive during that period. I have to agree with the other anon, those were some good movies and movies that had an impact, but I think to say they dominated the box office is probably overselling it.

(Anonymous) 2023-07-10 01:44 am (UTC)(link)
As a teen and twenty something in the 90s who lived directly across from the cinema, I can’t remember any kind of indie explosion. And my biggest takeaway from that link is that almost none of the movies mentioned were indie movies. There were so many movie studios in the 90s doing every kind of genre and what you’re calling indie movies were actually studio backed productions. They were just smaller studios than what exist now because the big ones gobbled up or killed off the smaller ones.
I’d love to see smaller studios formed again! But they’d have a very hard time surviving now because the giants have contracts that allow them to dictate to cinemas and streaming platforms what they can play alongside the giant’s stuff.

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(Anonymous) 2023-07-10 01:29 am (UTC)(link)
As someone who refuses to pick any post-90s movie to watch on Netflix I get where you are coming from, that era/style of movies was very interesting. Even blockbusters had a lot of human drama going on besides lightning and explosions, and those that focused on the graphics, not only have less longevity, weren't always well accepted (looking at you Waterworld) I am not a movie goer at all but I did like the Miramax era and the few years that followed spanning "blockbuster-indie" titles like Juno, Little Miss Sunshine, etc were also interesting to me so maybe I agree with you in a way.
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[personal profile] greghousesgf 2023-07-10 02:33 am (UTC)(link)
I fuckin hope you're right. I didn't even give a flying rat's ass about superheroes when I was a kid. I'm a bad nerd.
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[personal profile] meadowphoenix 2023-07-10 03:53 am (UTC)(link)
I don't think you're quite understanding how the economic incentives have changed with streaming, distribution, technology, and like greed, but I hope you're right anyway.

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[personal profile] deleted_scenes 2023-07-10 04:13 am (UTC)(link)
I can't say I agree with this secret.
Look at how well Spider-verse is doing.
And Top Gun Mavrick is one of the top grossing movies of all time.
They just have to be good movies.
Disney spread itself too thin with Star Wars and this stage of Marvel movies is just boring and badly written.
The Flash had drama around it.
Didn't The Batman from a few years back do well? I feel that movie just came and went.

(Anonymous) 2023-07-10 04:35 am (UTC)(link)
+1

I agree with this. And also - I think now the standard baseline that everyone uses for determining whether a franchise or a studio is doing well or failing is based on Disney (including Marvel and Star Wars) from like 2008 to 2018

But Disney from 2008 to 2018 is literally the most successful run by a studio ever. That is the best that any studio has ever done in terms of selling people tickets to movies over that period of time. So if you're comparing other studios and franchises to that baseline, of course they're not going to meet it.

(Anonymous) 2023-07-10 09:58 am (UTC)(link)
Seconding this and the anon above me!

(Anonymous) 2023-07-10 07:28 am (UTC)(link)
If only because the big franchise/superhero films force the studios to bankruptcy that they have no choice but to start lowering budgets on films they greenlight.
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[personal profile] queenslayerbee 2023-07-12 10:12 pm (UTC)(link)
I hope you're right, but I can't find it in myself to be this optimistic...

The indie content is something we're still going to have to go actively (even aggressively lol) looking by ourselves, I'm afraid.