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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2023-07-09 03:08 pm

[ SECRET POST #6029 ]


⌈ Secret Post #6029 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2023-07-09 10:31 pm (UTC)(link)
Deep Space Nine had at least one. IIRC, Garak had Odo locked in a room with a device that prevented him from returning to his liquid form. It’s framed explicitly as torture so that Odo will admit whatever secret he’s keeping. And it works. (I think it was something to do with how he sometimes wished he could be with his people, despite the fact that they were all awful.)

(Anonymous) 2023-07-09 10:32 pm (UTC)(link)
SA - there’s also that one in TNG with Picard and the lights, but that’s counter to OP’s issue because the torture in that one doesn’t work. (But came close.)

(Anonymous) 2023-07-09 10:39 pm (UTC)(link)
IDK if the takeaway from that scene is that torture works?

Odo does eventually tell Garak that he wants to return to the Great Link, but that's not actually the secret that Garak and Tain are looking for. And Garak is basically begging Odo to just tell him something so he can stop torturing Odo, including asking him to just make up a lie. The scene is much more about Odo's and Garak's character arcs than about torture being effective I think.

(Anonymous) 2023-07-09 10:55 pm (UTC)(link)
Well sure. Villains like Tain and morally questionable characters like Garak use torture on Star Trek frequently. It's the heroes using torture effectively on a regular basis that we're questioning.

(Anonymous) 2023-07-09 11:09 pm (UTC)(link)
NAYRT

We still have yet to find any evidence that any hero in Star Trek used torture on a regular basis, much less effectively.