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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2023-07-16 02:59 pm

[ SECRET POST #6036 ]


⌈ Secret Post #6036 ⌋

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confession

(Anonymous) 2023-07-16 09:41 pm (UTC)(link)
Probably going to get attacked for this but....I have a hard time feeling bad for actors when they talk about not making enough money when so many of them show themselves living a life of luxury and glamor. Like I follow a few lower tier actors online and their houses are amazing and they are always sharing about trips they get and free stuff they get etc, meanwhile I'm here making $16/hr and can't afford own anything or even to go to a doctor let alone a vacation.

I would never vocally say they shouldn't strike or anything and believe people should definitely demand fair treatment, but I just have a hard time getting over my bitter poorperson heart about it all. You know, just one those knee-jerk feelings you have but then you push back because it's irrational or unfair.

Re: confession

(Anonymous) 2023-07-16 09:46 pm (UTC)(link)
The thing is that those people aren't representative of the bulk of actors out there. Even "lower-tier" actors that you follow online are probably in the top 1% or 2% of actors if you know them well enough to be following their socials. The bulk of the union is, you know, the bartender who has three lines in the scene where the movie star buys a beer. Not the movie star.

Re: confession

(Anonymous) 2023-07-16 10:13 pm (UTC)(link)
You make a good point. I think another part of my problem is the disparity in the acting world - like it seems you're either a starving artist or living large with no in between. It's the same thing with American society at large - if the rich weren't so greedy and took lower salaries then maybe some of that money could go towards more equal pay for all. But that's pipedream nonsense, I know.

Re: confession

(Anonymous) 2023-07-16 10:21 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I get where you're coming from. But even at that point - the reason that lower-paid actors don't make more, it's not because of high-paid actors. The much bigger reason is that the studios want to bang down wages all over the place as much as they can. That's really the biggest thing that's going on. Actors' wages aren't set by the actors divvying up the money between them. They're set by the actors negotiating with the studios. The people who are getting that money instead of the actors are the studios and ultimately, the executives and the investors.

Re: confession

(Anonymous) 2023-07-17 04:52 am (UTC)(link)
Well, part of the reason for the strike is to allow the 'middle-class' of the entertainment business - the ones you say don't seem to exist - to continue to earn a living wage. The strike is literally fighting against the business forces that have and continue to create widening income inequality in America.

Re: confession

(Anonymous) 2023-07-16 09:48 pm (UTC)(link)
The vast majority of actors DON'T make that much. Most actors have day jobs to pay the bills.

Re: confession

(Anonymous) 2023-07-16 10:41 pm (UTC)(link)
I get where you're coming from. As the other replies said, most actors aren't as well off by any means, and I see it as good that higher profile, wealthy actors are putting their money and name behind demanding worker's rights that can protect others in the same industry. Plus, it can be hard for me to sympathize with actual celebrities' daily problems, even smaller celebrities like those you mentioned, but they deserve fair treatment in their workplace, as far removed from my life as it is.

Re: confession

(Anonymous) 2023-07-16 10:43 pm (UTC)(link)
I get where you’re coming from because it was my first thought, too. But we’re used to seeing the stars and they make shedloads of money per performance and usually have sponsorships, too. Plus most invest wisely.

I was pretty shocked to realize this was about the 98% other actors. I didn’t even realize the stars make up such a small percentage of SAG actors.

I did know though that a lot of SAG members aren’t American and have been on the lookout for news about how productions in their own countries are impacted by having SAG actors on their cast. I haven’t seen anything yet.

Re: confession

(Anonymous) 2023-07-16 10:46 pm (UTC)(link)
See, *I* know a working actor who is struggling to keep both an apartment and a car (and also eat), so... my view is very different from yours.

Re: confession

(Anonymous) 2023-07-16 10:52 pm (UTC)(link)
The way I see it, the question shouldn't be "do I make less than these striking workers?" but rather, "how much should we be getting? What would make life good?"

I heard so much bitching in the US when French students were trying to raise hell over losing holidays, because America is one of the most screwed over in that regard. But those people aren't "spoiled." We're fucked. And every time workers go "Can I support that? I think I have it worse than them," rich people just have it confirmed - again - that we're idiots, who only complain about being oppressed "unequally."

Re: confession

(Anonymous) 2023-07-17 10:17 pm (UTC)(link)
+1000

Re: confession

(Anonymous) 2023-07-16 11:01 pm (UTC)(link)
"I have a hard time feeling bad for Wal-Mart workers because the Waldens are rich" is basically what you're saying.

Re: confession

(Anonymous) 2023-07-17 02:40 am (UTC)(link)
Um no, it's not. Not at all. What a very weird take.

Re: confession

(Anonymous) 2023-07-17 03:01 am (UTC)(link)
You're right. The Waltons would be Bob Iger in this analogy.

It's more like "I have trouble feeling sorry for Walmart employees because Martha Stewart and some tiktok influencer who shills for Walmart are rich."

Re: confession

(Anonymous) 2023-07-17 04:55 am (UTC)(link)
If you get attacked for this, it'll be because you're so off base, it's crazy. Gently... if you see "lower tier actors" living in luxurious houses and going on fancy vacations, did it never occur to you that hey, maybe they're not as lower tier as you thought? Or maybe they've got another source of income besides their acting jobs? Why on earth would you immediately jump to "even low tier acting jobs must pay the big bucks"?