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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2023-07-16 02:59 pm

[ SECRET POST #6036 ]


⌈ Secret Post #6036 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2023-07-17 03:07 am (UTC)(link)
Did you forget some words at the end there? Your last three sentences don't make a lot of sense.

(Anonymous) 2023-07-17 04:00 am (UTC)(link)
I did, sorry. Trying again:

If you want to make the argument that PiV with trans people is different than PiV without trans people, go ahead? Sincerely. But just asserting that calling it het sex "is transphobic" won't get us anywhere.

DA

(Anonymous) 2023-07-17 04:15 am (UTC)(link)
It doesn't matter if the physical act is different or the same. If we take a hypothetical scenario in which there were two rooms with a couple having sex in each -- Room 1 with a gay couple with a trans person and Room 2 with a cishet couple -- and both couples ended up going through the exact same identical PIV motions from start to finish, the couple in Room 1 would still not have had het sex, and calling it so would be transphobic. Because "het" means a man and a woman, and trans men aren't women. THAT is what makes calling it het transphobic.

(Anonymous) 2023-07-17 04:40 am (UTC)(link)
The reason that I think "all PIV is het" is because it would mean that PIV sex between two gay men is het, which seems to me to imply that you don't accept the gender identity of the people involved.

SA

(Anonymous) 2023-07-17 04:45 am (UTC)(link)
Whoops, skipped a crucial word here.

The reason that I think that saying "all PIV is het" is transphobic is because I think it implies you don't accept the gender identities of the people involved. That's why I think it's a transphobic thing to say (maybe unintentionally so).

Re: SA

(Anonymous) 2023-07-18 07:51 pm (UTC)(link)
AYRT

Thanks for replying. I am thinking about this.