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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2023-07-30 04:46 pm

[ SECRET POST #6050 ]


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(Anonymous) 2023-07-30 09:45 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm finding this secret rather endearing, because I have things that I find equally baffling in terms of my brain being like "this is fine" versus "what even is that, ack!"

And it's often just this arbitrary, like being used to one set of silly hairdos and bugged by a different kind. Or foreign, historcal mustache customs. Or ... yeah. Sometimes it gets a lot better when I understand why something was a thing, like when I understood that the combination of ponytails and shaved-head-parts with samurai had to do with attaching their warrior helmets. (And probably with not overheating inside them.)

Other times, nah. Brain just insists on liking what it likes and not what it doesn't, and I leave it be.

(Anonymous) 2023-07-30 10:24 pm (UTC)(link)
From what I've seen of a Korean historian talking about a few costume K-dramas, they mostly aren't accurate but they are aping the time period so that people will know it's 'old'. So like the general look is correct, but the colours, fit, styles, are what varies between the decades and that is rarely depicted 100% accurately.

It's more an aesthetic than being truly accurate most of the time I think.

(Anonymous) 2023-07-30 10:24 pm (UTC)(link)
the hats are definitely accurate and the blue and white hanbok is spot on. garish is...sort of typical for court dress of any eastern Asian culture. girl in the middle though? the Joseon court did not have Elizabethan tailors, get outta here.

so yeah, it's mosly accurate (and arguably moreso than cdrama fantasy wear - those are glorious but they're fantasy, not historical) but as anon above me said, sometimes accurate is off-putting. I would much rather indulge in the Samurai Warriors (Musou) costumes than real chonmage hairstyles, I would much rather cute sexy little hats than accurate Han court hats, etc. Depends on the context; if the movie/tv series is purporting to be a faithful dramatisation of a historical event, then give me all the accuracy. Soap operaswith magic? Nah go ham on the fantasy, it's fine.

(Anonymous) 2023-07-31 12:08 am (UTC)(link)
Elizabethen?? I don't think it looks like that even in the cropped image. Empress Ki, about the Korean woman who became empress in China. And about as (not) accurate as Fan Bingbing's costumes in Empress of China but hardly Elizabethen.

(Anonymous) 2023-07-30 10:35 pm (UTC)(link)
If there is anything I've learned, it's that every culture has a plethora of really dumb hats throughout their history. Especially uniform hats. Some still do, in fact.

(Anonymous) 2023-07-31 02:50 am (UTC)(link)
I think it's just what you're used to. I watch Kdramas all the time, and I had similar reactions to yours when I was recommended Cdramas.
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[personal profile] greghousesgf 2023-07-31 03:00 am (UTC)(link)
am I alone here? I think those costumes are beautiful for the most part (OK, not the hats)

(Anonymous) 2023-07-31 05:09 am (UTC)(link)
No, I agree 100%--gorgeous costumes, hats maybe not.

(Anonymous) 2023-07-31 10:03 am (UTC)(link)
Agreed, even though sageuks generally do very little for me.

(Anonymous) 2023-07-31 12:34 pm (UTC)(link)
Definitely! I don't even care much if they're historically accurate, they are so pretty.

(Anonymous) 2023-07-31 03:33 pm (UTC)(link)
I actually love this hats. I love how difficult it's to structure them, it's like a sculpture. But I was into historical clothes through my uni days

(Anonymous) 2023-07-31 06:03 am (UTC)(link)

Unfriendly neighbourhood East Asian here to tell you that the "dick" hat as you so rudely put it is called a putou and dates from as early as the 6th century and saw widespread usage amongst men in East Asia, parts of Central Asia, and Vietnam in Southeast Asia.

If this is your first encounter with it, I am judging your taste in cdramas so bad.

Anyway, I suggest you give up and find something else that suits your aesthetic sensibilities. God knows our ancestors had no thoughts of pleasing you or I or anyone else when they designed their clothing.

(Anonymous) 2023-07-31 12:04 pm (UTC)(link)
To be fair, a lot of these types of hat were used as a way to elevate the person wearing it through added height and yeah, it was kind of part of the metaphorical patriarchic dick measuring contest. Also all things unecessarily tall and upright tend to get the "lol so phallic" treatment so it's not really surprising.