[ SECRET POST #6052 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #6052 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.


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[Etrian Odyssey III]



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Comments

[fscom]

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[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, that's just the way tv is these days. Either: there always has to be a twist and if too many people guess what's happening then they change it and it's bad; or they didn't get the audience they were after *cough*straight men*cough* and change it and it's bad.

[green_idylls]

You know, I've been watching some older (90s-00s) TV shows lately, and I feel like we really lost something. Usually there's some pretty terrible politics/bigotry, but there's a level of care and heart put into the scripts, the set dressing, the filming, everything, that I just don't see nowadays.

Netflix and the like churn stuff out as quick as they can for maximum profit. And because we're all miserable enough to take what we can get, we watch it, and it stays profitable. And the writers etc are paid less and less, too overworked and undervalued to do their best work... I genuinely think media is just getting worse. Less racism and homophobia, which is good! But in terms of quality... yeah, worse. It's just about making as much money as they can, with as little effort as they can.

[(Anonymous)]

I feel like what happened in part is that execs took our complaints about well-written shows being problematic and concluded we weren't interested in the writing at all; we would be satisfied as long as a show matched our politics.

And the thing is that they're not completely wrong. Plenty of people are quite happy with content that's flat and bland but that has token representation or that explicitly decries bigotry; and the few well-written shows out there still get the complaints of being problematic.

[(Anonymous)]

Thread OP

It's not even that deep. Writing a cohesive and coherent and satisfying story line takes time, and that takes money, and the execs can't ABIDE people not-them getting money.

[green_idylls]

I reckon the political thing is a thing though, part of the whole cash-grab mentality. They can wave around the progressive elements to entice people to buy a ticket or raise the viewing stats - and I find a lot of LGBT people at least sort of have a mindset of "this is the best we can get". There IS something to be said for coming home from a homophobic workplace or what have you and watching a show clumsily say "Homophobia Bad :)" - like I get why people settle for trash, I just think we all deserve better lol.

[(Anonymous)]

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See, I just prefer fanfiction. I haven't felt like I really have to settle for anything ever since I found my way around the story archives. Pretty much from the Hayes Code on, there was this idea that people watching visuals were lower class (compared to readers) and that the masses couldn't be trusted with stories that weren't propaganda. Just *read* the whole American censorship code, sometime, and be amazed at how much it deformed visual storytelling and limited the plots that were allowed in front of any camera, and take a good hard look at how much has actually not changed. And then contrast that with fanfic, where people write it all and no one can actually keep you from reading it - unless they manage to guilt you into doing that to yourself.

Totally with you on everyone deserving better, though.

[(Anonymous)]

TV shows either get cancelled too early or run for long enough that they fall off a cliff.

It's extraordinarily rare for a TV show to come to a natural end and maintain high quality the whole way through. It just doesn't happen.

[(Anonymous)]

i would recommend NBC Hanibal, you would fit right in. Spoilers, but it does end up going off cliff.

[(Anonymous)]

The only TV fandom I was sort of in was Lost during its original run.
It was fun to go to different forums to read others' interpretations and theories. I posted my own thoughts and episode reviews a handful of times on some fan forums.

Seeing the sorts of schisms and divergence in opinions on how the show ended (the last 2 seasons especially were really divisive) more or less turned me off to really "getting into" any TV show fandom.

I read people's reviews and theories, I watch video essays/reviews, I might talk to a person IRL about snippets and general thoughts/feelings, but most shows feel like a heavy investment of time and energy I seem to not have.

It's mostly my experience of seeing someone be enthusiastic about the Show and when I display my enthusiasm in return I get no real reaction or a really gatekeepy reaction.
And then it immediately makes me feel like I did something wrong so I stop engaging (outside of "oh yeah I watched the new episode, it was good. Wonder what the twist is" water cooler sort of chit chat with various people).