[ SECRET POST #6056 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #6056 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

Honestly until I read the comments in the original thread secret of this, I would not have classified her books as science fiction, but I also don't read science fiction so I don't know the nuances of the genre.

[meadowphoenix]

Honestly, me neither. I think speculative fiction actually fits better. To me there's a difference between fiction that imagines a society in which there is a focus on adjusting to change and fiction which focuses on a society wrestling with control. the latter can definitely be a consequence of the former, but they're not the same philosophical principles to me.

[(Anonymous)]

Speculative fiction is a type of scifi, though. Scifi is a huge genre. It encompases anything set in the future, involving aliens, or involving technology not invented yet.

[(Anonymous)]

Everything in say, The Handmaid's Tale, has happened to women somewhere before. It's just putting all of these horrors together.

I don't think science fiction fits; it's like a novel about slavery or the Torquemada, but updated.

Now if it was space slavery, or female slaves controlled by nanobots, I'd consider that scifi. The Handmaid's Tale is a dystopian novel based on culture and theology.

[feotakahari]

Corey Doctorow writes a lot of stuff that’s just contemporary issues pretending to be future, and he’s sci-fi.

[(Anonymous)]

Even so, that's not the novels she was talking about. She was talking about Oryx and Crake (and sequels) which is set in a post-apocalyptic world with genetically manipulated creatures.

[(Anonymous)]

Sociology is still science. Just because it isn't engineering or military science doesn't stop it being science fiction.

[meadowphoenix]

I would argue the opposite, that speculative fiction was created as a term because sci-fi's as generally understood didn't quite fit everything people were putting out, and that science fiction is a type of speculative fiction. for instance, your definition would exclude alternative history, and there is plenty of alt history which is clearly science fiction...and some which like Handmaid's Tale isn't really about encountering change, which I think science fiction requires. speculative fiction encompasses the distinction.

strictly speaking it just doesn't make sense to term anything "set in the future" as science fiction lol, like i think you mean a future where society is materially different. it is however, the quality of material difference I think matters.

but again, genre to me is about themes and concepts, not strictly character or setting.

[(Anonymous)]

Most of her books weren't, but around that time she wrote some that are absolutely SF.