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⌈ Secret Post #6058 + 6059 ⌋

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[fscom]

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[(Anonymous)]

I wouldn't mind if there were fewer things to consume, if they focused on quality and not quantity or producing shit the sake of producing shit.

[feotakahari]

I wonder if the strike will help with that. Higher wages mean you can’t dash off a cheap, mediocre movie and turn a modest profit on it. (Then again, if movies are anything like video games, the folks at the top promise investors every mediocre product will be the next big thing.)

[(Anonymous)]

I'm used to being in specific fandoms for years. This idea - that something has to be binged within so many months or it's a flop, that fandom is a flash in the pan and you should move on when the next three month show comes along - is so fucking awful. I hate it.

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, it really sucks. A lot less long-term engagement than there used to be, and I feel like that's what used to make fandom fun, the fact you'd all be hanging around for years developing the space.

[(Anonymous)]

+1000

I miss the feeling of community and long-term interests that much of fandom used to have.

[(Anonymous)]

I don't see how the two things are mutually exclusive, though? I too tend to be into specific fandoms for years, but I also consume tons of media that I never end up in the fandoms for for whatever reasons.

Like, just over the past six months, I've probably watched twelve different shows but only got into the fandom for one of them. That doesn't mean I didn't enjoy the other eleven, it just means I wasn't interested in fandom for them.

[(Anonymous)]

AYRT

People have started dropping a fandom as soon as the show is no longer in the public eye for streaming, or on air for broadcast. Because this is the way they think it works, mirroring what they've seen with streaming services (if it isn't completely watched in huge numbers by the end of the second month, it's cancelled). I recently heard someone actually say that they were sad that the show was over, cause now the fandom would be dead.

(Sometimes I can still hear fandoms voice...)

[(Anonymous)]

I wouldn't call that new - there have always been plenty of those people in fandom, who are into a thing only as long as it's airing and then move on to something else when it's done. I've been in fandom since the 90s and I distinctly recall always feeling bummed when my favorite shows ended because I knew that would mean much less fic and art.

On the Japanese side of fandom, back before the days of Pixiv and Twitter there were a lot of fanartists who would flat-out just delete all of their art from an "old" fandom once the show finished and they moved on to a new fandom.

[(Anonymous)]

AYRT

I've been in fandom since the 90s as well, and that hasn't been my experience at all. All of my fandoms have gone on very strong for years after the end of whatever piece of media it was. It wasn't until about five to ten years ago that I started seeing my fandoms die once a show stopped. I'm currently active in three fandoms at the moment. Two aired on tv and they're both years (4 & 10) past the end and still going strong. One was a streaming show just over a year old and is starting to lose steam.

[(Anonymous)]

+1

[(Anonymous)]

Recently I've been toying around with the phrase "the tyranny of content." The idea is that we now have this endless, overwhelming stream of content coming at us from every direction. It's impossible to consume all of it, but there's a compulsion to consume as much of it as we possibly can so we can stay on top of the zeitgeist -- which, due to the sheer amount of the stuff, moves at the breakneck pace you mention. There's very little time to dig in, reflect, and consider at length anything that we watch, because we have to make sure we don't miss the Next Thing. Netflix et al encourage and entrench it with they way they release and measure shows: a season all comes out at once, and you have to binge it if you want it to have a chance in hell of getting renewed, because if you dare to take your time with it (not because you don't like it, but simply because that's how you prefer to watch TV; or because, you know, you have other things to do in your life), they view that as evidence that the show is not doing well, and may not be worth additional investment.

What's it all mean? It means that a lot of the time, we aren't even watching because we like what we're watching, but because we feel like we have to consume the content. And because we feel like we have to consume the content, it means the content that's produced keeps falling in quality, because those producing it figure they've got our eyeballs no matter what they put in front of us. It's anxious. It's empty. It feels like a chore. It feels like the content has become, well, tyrannical.

Anyway, I figure this is probably why streaming is starting to implode. It's also why it absolutely was the right time for the strike.

[(Anonymous)]

Pleeeeeeeease please please please please!!! There are so many movies and shows I want to watch, but for the past three years it has felt like my brain is full. (Books, I can still read somehow.) My lists are so long; I would love the time and space to catch up.

[(Anonymous)]

You need a lockdown to catch up with EVERYTHING you want to read and watch these days.

[(Anonymous)]

My problem isn’t with how much is coming out, it’s with the fact it’s often dropped in large chunks or all at once. I’m never current with TV show fandoms (and therefore don’t engage much) because I can’t binge a season in a day or two. It takes me many weeks, sometimes months to watch 12 episodes.

[(Anonymous)]

See, I'm the exact opposite. Being able to watch something in large chunks or all at once makes me much more likely to get into the fandom for a show because I just can't maintain interest for long if I'm only getting one episode a week/month.

I'm way more involved in fandoms now than I ever used to be before.

[(Anonymous)]

Same. I NEED buffer time for my brain to take in and absorb what was going on. I tried binging when it first became a thing and I couldn't keep timelines, plot points, or characterization straight. It was all just a big blur in my mind.

[(Anonymous)]

First of all screw you. I barely survived your precious lockdown and lost the will to live let alone be in fandom. My to read list is longer than ever because I couldn't stand being online full of idiots clapping for forced medical procedures.
Second of all it's up to you to curate your experiences.

Thirdly I do hate the ephemeral nature of fandom. The whole 'that was a week ago, next new thing' is a shitty thing in fandom and in life. It's been going on for a while now along with a whole other bunch of shitty social things that are applauded.
The early 2000's were amazing before things really went downhill and that's what I'd like to go back to. When the idea of locking people up 'in case' they got sick was a dumb idea.