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[fscom]

10. https://i.imgur.com/nfbhvom.png

[akacat]

Same.

[(Anonymous)]

Oh, me too. I came out of Iron Man 2 and Winter Soldier thinking that Natasha's hairstyles looked really good and apparently they're both really awful wigs? I have zero eye for stuff like this.

[queenslayerbee]

I'd agree with the (generalised) opinion that the WS wig was awful, but the one in IM2? Literally her best look alongside Avengers 1 wtf xD

[(Anonymous)]

Ayrt

Obviously I have no idea, but I remember there was a discussion right here on FS about how bad the IM2 wig was. I think it might have even been its own secret? Literally that was when I even learned that it was a wig in the first place. I genuinely thought that was her actual hair when I watched the movie.

[queenslayerbee]

I tend to assume the actor is wearing a wig in cases like this (not natural colour and/or extra length/volume/details like braids etc.), but even then I don't see how this one was supposedly SO bad, especially in comparison with other examples in the MCU OR in just her character lol. I think it (well, they, she wore at least three different hairstyles IIRC) looked perfectly fine, without that artificial shine a lot of them have, and quite good on her.

[(Anonymous)]

Personally I do find her Winter Soldier wig pretty bad. I think a stick-straight, low-volume bob like that is one of the hardest wigs to make look good on most people, because there's just nothing to distract from anything that's even slightly off about it.

Her wig in IM2...ehh. I definitely clocked it as a wig, but it didn't bother me the same way, because it was so much more styled and textured and just...it was a lot. It was very, very "2010's sexy-girl hair." If I didn't like her IM2 hair, it was because it was more "nightclub hottie" that I personally wanted for the character, not because of the fakeness of the wig.

[(Anonymous)]

DA

I *loved* her IM2 hair.

[(Anonymous)]

It was very attractive, it just looked too obviously effortful for my taste--which made sense, to a degree, with her basically being low-key a honeypot for a lot of IM2. Though her hair is at its most intensely coiffed during the fight scene after her cover is revealed, which was definitely a style-over-narrative choice, IMO.

Her Avengers hair was my favorite; glamorous yet "effortless." It obviously wasn't remotely effortless in reality, but there was the illusion of effortlessness.

SA

[(Anonymous)]

*than I wanted for the character

[(Anonymous)]

I liked her IM2 hair but they made her take it DOWN for a fight scene!

[(Anonymous)]

Same here. I don't know how people tell, unless they're just used to seeing the actor out of costume and seeing the wig on the person just throws them off or something.

[(Anonymous)]

I can't tell wigs but now that I have them myself, I think I've gotten pretty good at spotting when celebrities have hair extensions as well. Especially women with the just-past-shoulder-length, slightly curled hairstyle.

[(Anonymous)]

Some of them just look really fake. For example, there's more hair than people generally have, i.e. super long or super bulky because it's basically a big hat that's been glued/pinned on top of the actor's real hair. Sometimes the hairline is too starkly delineated, if that makes any sense. If you look at your own hairline, it's not an opaque, clean line, it's made up of many individual hairs that are visible at close range and you see scalp/skin in between those hairs.

[(Anonymous)]

yep these are the obvious tells. the hairline the most, because even the most expensive lace-front wig still has a very unnatural too-perfect edge where all the hooked hairs stop evenly. lace-fronts mimic the look of hair coming out of the scalp but not in a natural way, and if the actor's hairline is very thick and close, the lace edge is glued way further toward the face than natural hair would be located. sometimes a centimeter makes all the difference. at least they're probably CGI-ing away any bad makeup blending these days lmao.

[tabaqui]

I figure stuff like GoT and historical/period pieces, etc. are wigs, because a lot of the time they're really elaborate and would take way too long to style on the person. But yeah, other than a few notable examples, I rarely, if ever, notice a wig, or think it's bad.

Just recently saw a little featurette on 'The Queen's Gambit', and ALL her hair were wigs. NO CLUE!

[(Anonymous)]

The irony is that Anya Taylor-Joy is one of the few actors who is all for changing her hair to whatever is asked for in any situation (I think she's already hit every natural color there is onscreen and will probably start going for the rainbow soon enough). It's just that with TQG they filmed all three timelines at once and she couldn't feasibly change the cut on her natural hair.

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, I don't think I ever had an issue with any of the wigs in Queen's Gambit. Part of that might've been that I found the series really good and therefore was thoroughly engaged the whole time and not looking for nits to pick. But also, I just think the wigs looked pretty good.

[(Anonymous)]

I can usually let bad wigs go, unless they're really awful. The House of the Dragons wigs were kind of noticeably bad, though. It's unfortunate, because the whole silver/white/blond hair + purple eyes thing is tough for live adaptations. The color doesn't really look right and then if you don't have the budget for really, really good wigs, peoples' heads look awkwardly big since their real hair is being smooshed down beneath it? Or the hairline looks very artificial.

[(Anonymous)]

I think I'm moderately sensitive to wigs in film. I notice them fairly often, but they don't tend to bother me until they get quite bad.

For me the worst wigs often seem to be ones where the hair is really straight, without any volume at the roots. Something about those wig styles just feel extremely inert to me, in a way that interferes with the energy given off by the character. Not quite sure why.

[(Anonymous)]

Same. And it really kind of annoys me how people talk about the wigs, like this weird superiority about spotting it and then mockery. It's weird.

[(Anonymous)]

I get what you mean, though I feel like a lot of people probably don't mean to come off that way. I think spotting illusions is one of those things that's naturally satisfying to a lot of people (like on an instinctive level), and it comes off as smugness.

I'm someone who cannot STAND any form of Auto Motion Plus or frame-rate alteration in my fictional media. I'm extremely sensitive to it, and it absolutely annihilates the illusion for me. There is no chance of me being able to watch a movie with AMP on and actually enjoy the experience. I'm sure when I rant about the horror of Auto Motion Plus within earshot of anyone who isn't sensitive to it, it seems really smug and superior, when I genuinely don't mean it to, it's just difficult not to rant impassionedly about it because omg the effect is so fucking intrusive.

OTOH, I'm not particularly sensitive to CGI face-work. CGI Tarkin and CGI Luke didn't overly bother me, for example. CGI Leia was a little weird, but whatever, I shrugged it off. Meanwhile a lot of people are just like, "Gross, I hate it, how is it so terrible?!"

[(Anonymous)]

Wig-spotting discourse makes me even antsier than baseline about the idea of cancer treatment losing me all my hair.

It's the same general space, in my mind, as dispersing mockery to public figures about aspects of their body (for example, Trump's weight) and having it not do much to the specific public figure but leaving everyone else around aware how the mocker really feels.

[(Anonymous)]

Little secret: almost no onscreen hair is entirely the actors'. This doesn't apply to most men or women with pixie/bob cuts, but most hair looks really thin on camera, and so extensions are de rigueur on not only movies but TV shows as well. (Mayim Bialik really worked with this when creating the look of Amy on The Big Bang Theory; she specifically asked not to have any fillers in her hair, so it looks lank and lifeless, especially next to Penny and Bernadette who both wore extensions to make their hair look bigger and shinier.) Also, because TV Shows are lower budget and have to work faster, continuity is a big issue and in a lot of cases it's just plain easier to use wigs.

Tons of the people who think they can call out all wigs have no idea they see wigs/extensions in almost all live-action media.

[(Anonymous)]

The only time I've noticed wigs is when they are distractingly bad (Liz in the first season of The Blacklist) or it doesn't jive with what has been shown earlier (Rey going back to the Resistance base in TROS).