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Overrated books and/or authors?

(Anonymous) 2023-08-08 09:32 pm (UTC)(link)
Please tell us why you think something or someone is overrated, that's the interesting part.

Re: Overrated books and/or authors?

(Anonymous) 2023-08-08 10:50 pm (UTC)(link)
Earthsea and Le Guin are just so overrated to me. I'm probably just not the target audience. I find them so slow, and not even in an interesting way. I'm okay with slow if we're exploring the fictional world and the characters, but I feel like there were a bunch of times where it was just preachy and telling rather than showing.

Honestly I really don't like preachy things, even if I like the message. I have equal dislike for Narnia and Dark Materials.

Stranger in a Strange Land is not remotely close to Heinlein's best, so it makes me sad that it is probably his best known. He's got some really good books, but that isn't one of them.

Re: Overrated books and/or authors?

(Anonymous) 2023-08-09 03:25 am (UTC)(link)
Agreed on Le Guin. I do love her worldbuilding. The first of her books that I read was Changing Planes, and it became one of my favorite short story collections of all time. But now I know that's because it's a collection of nothing but worldbuilding. I thought I'd love her novels, but any time she tries to take one of her worlds and weave a full story into it, I get bored. I gave up on her after Left Hand of Darkness, the one everyone says is her absolute best, became a chore for me to finish.
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Re: Overrated books and/or authors?

[personal profile] kaijinscendre 2023-08-08 11:05 pm (UTC)(link)
Stephen King. I've hated every one of his books I've read. I think it is the endings. They are always awful.

I've also said this many times, but I think My Sister's Keeper is an awful book and a good example of the movie being better.
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Re: Overrated books and/or authors?

[personal profile] deleted_scenes 2023-08-09 01:34 am (UTC)(link)
Are you me?

I don't like a single King book I've read. Some start strong then just get...not good. Granted I've only read 3. And one was a Bachman book.

And as for My Sister's Keeper...yep! The only thing the book did better than the movie was the arson subplot, which the movie cut entirely.

Re: Overrated books and/or authors?

(Anonymous) 2023-08-09 02:00 am (UTC)(link)
I like a lot of King's short stories. I think he has issues with novel-length stories and runs out of ideas. But he has some really good short stories that are just right.

Re: Overrated books and/or authors?

(Anonymous) 2023-08-09 06:49 pm (UTC)(link)
This. Langoliers and The Long Walk are my two faves by him but I just struggle with the super long novels. He doesn't seem to hit the book's stride until after the halfway point with those and by then I want to give up!

Re: Overrated books and/or authors?

(Anonymous) 2023-08-09 03:07 am (UTC)(link)
I like some Stephen King books, but pretty much all his endings suck. The worst for me was how The Dark Tower series ended (though the warning just before the real ending was kinda funny).
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Re: Overrated books and/or authors?

[personal profile] greghousesgf 2023-08-08 11:28 pm (UTC)(link)
Ethan Frome. I had to read it in high school English which I've been told is the context most people have read it in and I find it very boring and don't know why it's considered some sort of classic. This unhappily married guy falls in love with this woman who's a shallow little twit. The closest you get to a sexy scene is where they're washing dishes. They don't do anything about their situation through most of the book except moan about it until near the end when they decide to do the dumbest thing possible which is commit suicide. They decide to do that in the dumbest way possible which is ride a sled downhill and deliberately hit a tree. They both wind up paralyzed and the guy's wife (who we're supposed to dislike but whom I just felt sorry for) is forced to take care of them for the rest of her life.

Re: Overrated books and/or authors?

(Anonymous) 2023-08-08 11:38 pm (UTC)(link)
Man, I agree so hard with you. I think I may have laughed out loud at them trying to kill themselves with a sled, it was such an utterly ridiculous thing to do.

Re: Overrated books and/or authors?

(Anonymous) 2023-08-08 11:32 pm (UTC)(link)
I hated Harry Potter before it was cool to do so. Harry bloody Potter, what a secondrate rip off of Enid Blyton and Jill Murphy. How Jill Murphy didn't sue her royal terfness to bankruptcy and back over the most blatant plagiarism in history is beyond me.

Re: Overrated books and/or authors?

(Anonymous) 2023-08-08 11:37 pm (UTC)(link)
Years ago, when it was The Thing, I read 'The Lovely Bones.' The moment when I came to truly and fully wonder why everyone was so into it was when the main character possessed her sister in order to have schmoopy, gooey sex with her childhood crush - and the crush was aware that this was happening. Look, it was kind of creepy when Patrick Swayze possessed Whoopi Goldberg, but at least he didn't go ahead and sleep with his girlfriend while he was doing it, and at least Whoopi was consenting.

'The Name of the Wind.' JFC, I hated book. I hated how Special Kvothe was supposed to be (right down to his name having that stupid spelling. Everyone else in the world has normal-ass names, and there doesn't appear to be any widespread convention of pronouncing "kvo" as "quo," but Mr. Red Special Pants has to have just one more way to stand out). I hated how the principle female character was a neckbeard's idea of a tragic figure, the slutty slut who just can't stop slutting and must be saved from her slutting by the Nice Guy, and also she's so unhappy about the awful men who treat her terribly but keeps going back to them because Nice Guys Finish Last or something. I hated how the first couple chapters of the book set up a story I'd actually had liked to read, but decided to spend 1000 pages on Mr. Red Special Pants going to wizard school instead.

'Sex at Dawn.' Upheld as this groundbreaking look at human sexuality, upending all our assumptions using Scientific Evidence. Instead, it's a manifesto from a couple who thinks everyone should be polyamorous like them, and who deliberately misrepresent the evidence in order to convince the reader of their pre-determined conclusion (this includes very brazenly reordering a quote from Darwin in order to make it seem as if he thought monogamy was bullshit. If you read the quote in its original form, he is arguing the exact opposite: the humans evolved to form monogamous pair bonds). I don't think I'd hate it quite as much if so many people didn't treat it as gospel truth ("they have sources! If you disagree with them, you hate science!" Yeah, why don't you read the rebuttal, 'Sex at Dusk,' written by an actual evolutionary biologist, and then get back to me on that?).
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Re: Overrated books and/or authors?

[personal profile] deleted_scenes 2023-08-09 01:36 am (UTC)(link)
Suzy didn't possess her sister, she possessed Ruth, the implied lesbian. Which somehow makes it worse.

Re: Overrated books and/or authors?

(Anonymous) 2023-08-09 01:49 am (UTC)(link)
> I hated how the first couple chapters of the book set up a story I'd actually had liked to read, but decided to spend 1000 pages on Mr. Red Special Pants going to wizard school instead.

YES, my god, I was so ready for the second book to finally progress the story now that we'd covered all that introduction but no, it got worse. And that primary framing is STILL how people are defending the results.

Re: Overrated books and/or authors?

(Anonymous) 2023-08-09 02:33 am (UTC)(link)
I just realised that I can’t remember much about Name of the Wind at all. I read it within the first year of publication and again in prep when book 2 came out but on the reread I didn’t like it as much and I really didn’t like the second one at all. I don’t remember exactly why but I think part of it was backlash against the hype.

Re: Overrated books and/or authors?

(Anonymous) 2023-08-09 01:10 am (UTC)(link)
The Mists of Fucking Avalon. The series that launched a thousand middle-class white girl wannabe Wiccans. Even before we knew what we know about MZB, zero patience for that pretentious load.

Re: Overrated books and/or authors?

(Anonymous) 2023-08-09 04:29 am (UTC)(link)
I had nothing else to read on a long plane flight. I coped by counting the number of times it used the word "womb".

Re: Overrated books and/or authors?

(Anonymous) 2023-08-09 05:05 pm (UTC)(link)
That would be a good drinking game if you wanted alcohol poisoning.

Re: Overrated books and/or authors?

(Anonymous) 2023-08-09 02:30 am (UTC)(link)
I enjoy Neil Gaiman's work in general, but... honestly I think most of what does it for me is his ideas and themes. His actual writing is good, but not amazing.

Re: Overrated books and/or authors?

(Anonymous) 2023-08-09 10:44 am (UTC)(link)
This. Honestly, I find his best stuff is either collaborative or written under editorial oversight.

Re: Overrated books and/or authors?

(Anonymous) 2023-08-09 02:19 pm (UTC)(link)
I like his ideas, but yeah. My favorite of his stuff is colloboration: either good omens or Sandman.

Re: Overrated books and/or authors?

(Anonymous) 2023-08-09 08:36 pm (UTC)(link)
Same. I could listen to Gaiman tell stories for hours but if I try to read one of his novels I can't get past the first few page.

I think I'd have to buy the audio books if I wanted to enjoy any of his solo novels.

Re: Overrated books and/or authors?

(Anonymous) 2023-08-09 03:12 am (UTC)(link)
Alice Oseman. Don’t get me wrong, I do like Heartstopper, but people act like it’s the most amazing gay love story ever and it’s just okay IMO.

Oh, and Rainbow Rowell. Specifically the Carry On trilogy. The first book was fun, but the rest are a frustrating mess of misunderstandings and random plots that don’t really go anywhere.

Re: Overrated books and/or authors?

(Anonymous) 2023-08-09 07:28 am (UTC)(link)
the most popular shit on booktok: cassie clare/holly black/SJM.

CC for churning out book after book after book for yet another new gen of kids/cousins/whatevers for the shadowhunters, holly black for piggybacking off it and SJM for being an absolute greedy cash grabbing person (do we really need 5 US store-exclusive bonus content Editions for Crescent City 3???)