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⌈ Secret Post #6058 + 6059 ⌋

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Comments

[queenslayerbee]

"they're nowhere near as bad s she makes it out to be" a.) that's your opinion b.) it's only not as bad if you compare it with the OTHER couple of the book and the guy's terrible behaviour there.

The point for me is that the story (and the books preceding it which is part of the context the reviewer has and us don't. SJM seems to follow a pattern and has clear preferences about her male characters) is full of alpha male bullshit which a lot of the readers call a "feminist" fantasy because it's THEIR sexual fantasy. And I think that's bullshit lol. Good on you for finding something that gets you hot but that's not what feminism is.

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, feminism is forcing yourself to do things that you don't like, and then blaming men when it turns out that that's a depressing life.

[(Anonymous)]

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[(Anonymous)]

I don't think women who aren't you are Doing Feminism Wrong just because they have those fantasies. What people like in fiction does not necessarily line up with their real world desires, let alone their political views.

Also, I thought feminism was about women being able to make their own choices about their own lives, not necessarily what they choose to do with their lives.

[queenslayerbee]

I'm not saying it's unfeminist to have those fantasies, I'm saying it's ridiculous to claim those fantasies (or any sexual fantasy of any kind, really) are feminist. Or empowering or transgressive or any other word people might use. And that, btw, they only use when it's women fantasising about being dominated by men, but would likely NEVER use for any other axis of oppression, lbr.

I *agree* that what people like in fiction (or in bed) is separate from their political and philosophical beliefs. That's my point. People that read these kinds of books (or things like historical romance and the like, often filled with similar tropes) always rave about how empowering theily are for women because they align with THEIR fantasies, as if bringing them pleasure has anything to do with feminism.

[(Anonymous)]

It could be argued that it is empowering for women to embrace their fantasies without shame, given that women openly expressing their sexuality have traditionally been viewed very negatively and treated poorly.