[ SECRET POST #6062 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #6062 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.


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["The Carnival of the Animals" by Camille Saint-Saëns]



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06. [SPOILERS for Marvel Secret Invasion]




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08. [WARNING for discussion of transphobia]




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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

No, some people pulled the old fandom is not activism card to avoid caring about what OSC said, but a very many people have most definitely not disassociated from him. Weoved out from his fandoms, set them aside, and found mew ones instead because of his bigotry. And OSC wasnt, unlike Rowling who is, active on social media and saying that people enjoying their works are endorsing their bigotted worldview.

I get it, you don't want to care because caring feels like effort. You just want people to stop talking about it so you no longer feel guilty, but we are not here to absolve your feels.

[(Anonymous)]

AYRT

No, anon. People were able to care about what Orson Scott Card said, and condemn him for it, while separating the work from him. You do not have to hate everything a person has ever done in order to call out the bad things that they have. That stems from a worldview that supposes people are divided neatly into the categories of good and evil. But they're not, and it spells trouble when we start to think that they do.

Can you link Rowling saying that anyone who enjoys her work supports her politics?

[(Anonymous)]

Some people did that, you did that. Others, many others did not.

[(Anonymous)]

DA

And? You're the fandom police?

[(Anonymous)]

But you are? You are the one claiming to speak for all OSC fandom first. You are upset that you got pushback on that?

[(Anonymous)]

Ahem. Notice the DA. It stands for Different Anon.

I know nothing of OSC. Never read his stuff, dunno much about the controversy. I do know that I don't like people trying to tell others what they can like.

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AYRT

I'm responding to you suggesting that separating the work from the author means not caring about what the author said.

[(Anonymous)]

You really think that, though? When OSC has basically fallen off the grid and no one outside of a very small portion of fandom for just one of the many books and series that he wrote even talks about him anymore? When all talks of an Ender's Game series have died and the only thing that was ever released outside the books themselves was one poorly made and poorly received movie? If "people are able to separate the work from him" it's because they only remember one book he wrote in the 80s and he's otherwise completely fallen off the grid unless you go looking for him. And even that is a stretch unless you think that Orson Scott Card hates making money so much that he refuses to let Netflix or Amazon Prime touch Ender's Game, Alvin Maker, or any of the SF, fantasy or horror standalone books he was churning out in the 90s and early aughts (the standalones were all pretty shitty, but are also the exact kind of shitty that Prime and Netflix have cornered the market on promoting). OSC isn't getting new fans, and his old fans are either outgrowing him or are the kind of sad 40+ year olds who still relate really hard to Ender Wiggins, and at least part of that is due to his terrible views making it pretty damn hard to ignore the underlying streak of hard-right Mormon creepiness in everything he writes.